Talk:Palestine

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Jerusalem Forever Palestinian AS LONG AS ITAKES[edit]

Lets not forget it belongs to two countries, un does not never ll recognize it jewish~!—This unsigned comment is by Kremliner (talkcontribs) 00:46, 18 April 2009.

thx for a post devoid of any contribution to the article and being unsigned. I can take care only of the later, the formeros your job.--Baruchbay 17:10, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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For 40 years, Israel has been ruled mostly by a series of right-wing governments – more and more openly racist and abusive of Palestinian rights.... a large number of proud Jewish Americans – raised to believe in civil liberties and open discussion – are... appalled that human-rights-abusing Israel is virtually off-limits to debate.

Working to bring closer to WQ norms[edit]

This article was since 2019 at least a target of the LibraryClerk0191 sockfarm. Typical results from this sockfarm are POV bolding and images plus long neither-notable-nor-quotable expositions by Medea Benjamin, Benjamin Creme, et al., often with little relevance to the article topic, claiming that the US has done something evil. The article lead here says that its topic is "a geographic region in Western Asia between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River." HouseOfChange (talk) 20:43, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Contested edit. The topic here is "Palestine"[edit]

Do others agree with ColonelRogers that both his recent additions belong also here under the topic "Palestine"? His explanation is that "This is very much on-topic, and is not POV pushing, rather the quotes include undisputed facts. Censoring legit material is POV pushing." The point of WQ is not to host "undisputed facts" but to host notable quotable quotes in relevant articles. The same quotes are NOT off-topic in the article Israel, and although I don't consider them very quotable, I have not reverted them there. The first of these does not mention Palestine even by inference. The second has a somewhat Palestine-related part but is again primarily on the topic of Israeli politics, which is not the same thing as the area of Palestine. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Jewish radicals have waited decades to reach office. They have the numbers now, and are loath to let this window of opportunity slip their hands.
  • Alastair Crooke, Both Sides in the Region Now See ‘Big War’ as Possible, Al Mayadeen English (23 Apr 2023)
  • Part of it, has to do with the increased influence of national-religious sentiment as the Occupation grew into a broad-based subculture of Israeli society. The settler movement is more than simply the aggregate of those living in settlement homes: It includes an intellectual and educational framework; a vision of Zionism as Greater "Israel" - or of what Chaim Gans calls, “proprietary Zionism” – i.e. one which sees the land -- from the river to the sea -- belonging exclusively to the Jews.
  • Alastair Crooke, The reality that is 'Israel': An Éclat of messianism and apocalypse, shocking and paralysing the West, Al Mayadeen English, (6 May 2023)

HouseOfChange (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I C what U mean and will make it all better now. Thanks much for your input.
ColonelRogers (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ColonelRogers, I looked at your first contribution to this article (out of 13 in total), and since you say you intend to improve this article, I wonder if you would consider making edits with only one quote per edit? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your improvement of the second quote. It is now a good addition to the article. I disagree, however, that the other quote just added improves the article, focused as it is on Israeli politics: The US is putting enormous pressure on PM, Netanyahu, to abandon the Judicial ‘Reform’, which however constitutes the key-stone undergirding the whole ‘Land of Israel’ edifice: A project that is predicated upon ‘re-taking’ all of the West Bank from Palestinian ‘hands’. An enterprise that has the potential to shake the region to its very core -- and to trigger war. I think that not-very-quotable-or-relevant quote should be removed from this article, but would welcome its replacement by a quote focused on taking West Bank from Palestinian hands. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]