Talk:Virgil

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I'm looking in book one, and I'm not seeing that quote about hell anywhere. My latin has seen better days, but is it in there?

Is it "Omnia vincit amor" or "w:Amor vincit omnia"?

Despite the word order of most tanslations, the original latin is "Omnia vincit Amor...", and where chapters are known chapter orders should be retained. ~ Kalki 01:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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  • Naturalia non sunt turpia
    • Natural things are not shameful.
    • Variant translation: Natural things are without shame.
  • Nulla salus bello
    • There is no rescue in war

Haerent infixi pectore vultus.[edit]

The most popular English translation of "Haerent infixi pectore vultus" (Aeneid, Book IV, l. 4) seems to be: "Her looks were deep imprinted in his heart", but that is confusing to me because the original line refers to Dido's love for Aeneas, and her heart (not the other way around). Am I missing something here? ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:34, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

This author's name is Vergil.[edit]

I can see making a reference to the misspelled version Virgil, but this spelling error should not be the title of the main entry. The name Publius Vergilius Maro doesn't lead to "Virgil" unless you're trying to Christianize it: wholly inappropriate considering when he lived. —This unsigned comment is by LauraH (talkcontribs) .

Vergilius is properly part of his name, but one of the standard anglicizations of that is Virgil, and that is what is currently used at Wikipedia, and in many other publications. ~ Kalki·· 14:37, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I am in favor of changing the title to Vergil.
Vergilius wrote his name with an "e", so "Vergil" is indisputably the correct spelling. However, during the early Middle Ages the "e" was changed to an "i", possibly due to a scribe's mistake (many stories on this), and "Virgil" has since then become the standard spelling. I myself see no reason why Wikiquote should continue to perpetuate this error. ~ DanielTom (talk) 15:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Spelling idiosyncrasies abound in English, and Virgil is the most common form, and not in itself an "error" though it probably developed from some. A debate occurred in relation to the Wikipedia title as well, and eventually Virgil was maintained; I have no strong feelings either way, but am generally willing to accord with the Wikipedia preferences. ~ Kalki·· 16:40, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
"Virgil" has become standard English usage as DanielTom notes, and is the most common form as Kalki notes. I think WP:COMMONNAME makes good sense in this case: the more recognizable name is more useful to our readers. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)