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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the War page.


Should we create a peace page? I think AJ Muste's "There is no way to peace—peace is the way" should be there, and not [on] a war quotes page. - Jeandré, 2004-06-13t22:19z

I have just begun a page for Peace, and will add much more to it tonight. One need not ask to create a page on any theme. Just do it. But War definitely is deserving of a page as well, and collecting quotes about it is not necessarily an act of glorification of it: "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its stupidity." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower (Forgot to sign previously, and re-reading your comment I realized you weren't arguing against having a War page, but that Muste's quote should not be there. I think it should be on both pages, as it involves commentary upon the processes of both.) Peace. ~ Kalki 23:08, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Personal interpretations do not belong in articles[edit]

Removed "[The diffirence being that terrorists deliberate target civilians and western countries target military targets, if civilians die then that is an accident (as its not intended) and to blaim on the person who put the military target near the civilians. Also terrorists use civilians as human shields. Note: if enemy fighters hide in a school it become a military target (bunker/barracks).]" from the following quote:

  • "When people decry civilian deaths caused by the U.S government, they're aiding propaganda efforts. In sharp contrast, when civilian deaths are caused by bombers who hate America, the perpetrators are evil and those deaths are tragedies. When they put bombs in cars and kill people, they're uncivilized killers. When we put bombs on missiles and kill people, we're upholding civilized values. When they kill, they're terrorists. When we kill, we're striking against terror." - Norman Solomon from "Orwellian Logic 101 - A Few Simple Lessons".

Personal interpretations belong in discussions not in articles. The authors interpretation of the quote seems to be way off in my opinion. Also, the quote itself (and the two following it) don't seem to fit in 'War' at all, but I have no idea where to put them and will leave that to someone else.

Point of order: When is someone important enough, or their comments pithy/snarky/cogent enough to rate inclusion on the page? Or is there just a star chamber of political correctness one must pass through? Mlorrey 21:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Can't remember the source of this one[edit]

I know it was an Amrican general around the time of the second world war, the quote went something like: "No-one ever won a war by dying for his country. The idea is to make the other poor guy die for his" Anyone know the exact wording and who it comes from? 81.102.41.34 22:26, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The quote is from George S. Patton, and it's already included in the article. The quote, as rendered here, is: "Nobody ever won a war by dying for his country, he won it by making the other bastard die for his." I've also heard it as: "No poor dumb bastard... some other poor dumb bastard....." --Chris H 22:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

The quote is from Francis Ford Coppola's 1970 movie "Patton" as voiced by George C. Scott. The line "Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country." is in the movie's opening speech. It may be artistic license as I haven't found anything attributing a similar quote to the actual General Patton. You can listen to it in context at http://vodpod.com/watch/1693590-patton-in-typography

Several deletions[edit]

I'll spare a whole appraisal here, but I removed several quotes of a nature I felt unbefitting to this page. To be on this page, a quote should, in my mind:

a) Make a philosophical, moral or technical comment about war and war alone b) Refer not to a war, but war in general c) While being pro-war or anti-war, it ought nevertheless to refrain from any political commentary beyond that, and any commentary remaining ought to be directly-related to the instigation or conduct of warfare

With those guidelines in mind, I've excised several quotes. Regardless of who said them or in what context, I looked at the quote itself:

  • Some were quotes regarding terrorism or "the war on terror", which cannot be counted as a quote about war, but rather about terrorism - the Michael Solomon quote qualified here.
  • Some, like the Michael Moore quote, were paraphrases, and therefore were removed for that reason (though not for ideological ones, as it did not specifically name a war or leader).
  • Some spoke of a specific war, i.e. the Robert Miller quote regarding Korea, and as it did so in the quote itself I removed it. The Howard Zinn about Iraq was also removed.
  • One referred to the journalism regarding the war, and mentioned America specifically, and this was removed.
  • Besides that - removed both for non-topicality and mention of a specific nation, a quote regarding Prussia was also removed.
  • One had no source cited (despite being a good quote) and was removed - if anyone knows who said, "War is half of the truth. Peace is the other half. Which side are you?", it ought to be reinserted.
  • Three quotes - a Churchill, a Blix and a System of a Down - may or may not have had to do with war, but in any case were not specifically about it, and were removed.

Those that remained were pertinent due to the content of the quotes, for example the Anthony Zinni one, which naturally was about a specific war but did not say such in the context of the quote, only spoke of war, and therefore stayed. Others were said by or about specific wars, but as the quotes themselves referred not to a war but war in general, they remained - the Eisenhower quotes, etc. The Heinleins stayed because, although they pushed an ideological agenda (which of these don't?) they said nothing specific about specific wars but did discuss war. Any questions, please reply. ~ (posted by User:Wally)

It seems that there is a second quote of Edwin Starr's song 'War' in the fictional section. I believe that we should get rid of the fictional quote. The words of Edwin Star are as much fiction as the words of Trotsky or Churchill. ~ (posted by Anroth (may be joining))

can we make sure that instead of outright deleting these quotes they make their way to the correct sections, i.e. wars on iraq/WW2/prussian military, whatever is appropriate and we put a nice table of links at the bottom, because i'm sure several people come here to view those quotes. ~ (posted by User:Pluke)
I can agree with most of the removals that occured, but not all of them, nor all of the reasons given for removal. The statement made by Moore in his movie has become famous and notable in itself, even if it is a paraphrase or an adaptation of other statements, and I can agree that if things are removed as being far too specific about a particular war, that are worthy of inclusion elsewhere, they should be put into such articles where they would be more appropriate. I agree that most of the "Theme" pages should probably be developed so that they have links for "Sub-Themes", related issues, and perhaps a list at the bottom of the pages to some prominent proponents or opponents of issues related to the theme itself. There is certainly a great deal of work that can be done on this project on many pages by many people, and some care should be taken in both adding quotes and removing them to insure that they do have placement where they are appropriate. ~ Kalki 20:38, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
All quotes still remain in the history, and so can (and should) be moved, with minimal effort.
Where the Michael Moore quote is concerned, I do not dispute the fact that it has become famous (although I rather wish he hadn't butchered Orwell so); I removed it because the quote was a paraphrase of another author, and therefore I did not feel it warranted continued inclusion. If there is general agreement, however, I'll replace it. Wally 03:27, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Benito Mussolini[edit]

"War alone brings up to their highest tension all human energies and imposes the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have the courage to make it. " Is it alright to add this?

that sounds very appropriate, please go ahead --Pluke 18:23, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"God is on the side with the most divisions."[edit]

  • Who originally said it?
  • I know a Kaiser was attributed to saying that "God is not on the side with the most divisions, he is on the side that can shoot straightest." (which might be a good quote contrasting the arbitrariness of both terrorism and WMD vs. personal combat and guided munitions.)
  • Stalin asked how many divisions the Pope had.
  • "the most divisions" is commonly used in paraphrasing commentary.

Please contribute suggestions and sources, thanks. Mlorrey 22:00, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

MSN Encarta highlight for 30 May 2005[edit]

A list of 15 War Quotes is highlighted at MSN Encarta. See [1]. Ceyockey 17:28, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Pro-War & Anti-War Quotations[edit]

Do pro-war and anti-war quotations belong together in the same page? Shouldn't they be seperated somehow?

Not really, since sometimes they can be interpreted as either. 140.88.94.55 01:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Plato Misquote?[edit]

The quote "only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato, may not actually belong to Plato. It was misattributed to him by Gen. Douglas MacArthur in an farewell speech to some cadets at West Point academy, and probably from there to the opening credits at the start of the film Black Hawk Down. I believe the privilege of this quote goes to George Santayana. I don't claim this to be my own first hand information but it seems to be the general concensus after a little bit of research. Just thought I'd stir some trouble, but perhaps someone more knowledgable could throw their eye on this?

Here's one reference: http://plato-dialogues.org/faq/faq008.htm

and any search through google will give similar arguements from different sources.

Sections[edit]

Does anyone think there should be sections? Right now the quotes are a bit jumbled here and there. I don't have too many ideas - the only one I can see is by time period. Anyone? 81.0.175.34 15:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

"every generation should experience war"[edit]

I think Adolf Hitler said it once, I searched google for at least a minute - did not find it. Someone else? PER9000 09:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

source please[edit]

Anybody knows [the source of] "In a war powerful states act like robbers, weak states act like prostitutes"? Alberto

There are two almost identical Leon Trotsky quotes right after each other.

Latin Quote Claim?[edit]

The article claims that this latin text:

Epitoma Rei Militaris — Vegetius.

is the basis for the following expresion:

If you want peace, prepare for war — an ancient Roman expression, derived from "Epitoma Rei Militaris — Vegetius"

Now, my friend who knows latin thinks that the latin quote literately means "Epitomy of the miltary [thing, event, or property] - active", so I'm curious if someone has a more authoritative source.

--Imjustmatthew 19:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The 1st Duke of Wellington is Real![edit]

So why is his quote in the 'War in fiction' section?

Hmmm[edit]

Anyone know the source for "The history of the world is a history of war"?

Wiesel quote in The Watchtower[edit]

  • From time immemorial, people have talked about peace without achieving it. Do we simply lack enough experience? Though we talk peace, we wage war. Sometimes we even wage war in the name of peace. . . . War may be too much a part of history to be eliminated—ever.

Is it appropriate to source a quotation to a publication like The Watchtower? I'm not talking about their religious orientation; I'm concerned about their editorial standards, and the neutrality of their POV. MitchS (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Several points about this situation:
  1. The citation given is misleading because Wiesel is not the author of the cited article. To cite that article one should say "as quoted in" or "as attributed in", depending on whether The Watchtower cites its source.
  2. The Watchtower very often does not cite its sources (except for bible citations), and has published numerous misattributions and misquotations. It also has a history of cherry-picking things out of context to suit their POV when it misrepresents the author's intent.
  3. When The Watchtower does not identify its source, I think it should not be cited by Wikiquote. I regard its unsourced attributions as no more reliable than anonymous graffiti.
  4. When The Watchtower does identify its source, that source should be verified and cited by Wikiquote. There is no reason to cite an unreliable source when a reliable one has been identified.
In this particular case, the quotation given is a misquote of a piece Wiesel published in Parade Magazine. I will correct the quotation and cite the source authored by Wiesel himself. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:25, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced[edit]

If you can provide a precise and verifiable source for any quote on this list please move it to War.
  • When two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.
    • East African proverb, quoted in print as early as 1918
  • It was close; but that's the way it is in war. You win or lose, live or die — and the difference is just an eyelash.
  • Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war. (Homer)
  • In war, truth is the first casualty. (Aeschylus)
  • War spares not the brave but the cowardly. (Anacreon)
  • To lead untrained people to war is to throw them away. (Confucius)
  • Laws are silent in times of war. (Cicero)
Silent enim leges inter arma.
  • We make war so that we may live in peace. Aristotle
  • I think the slain care little if they sleep or rise again. (Aeschylus)
  • War, as the saying goes, is full of false alarms. (Aristotle)
  • War gives the right of the conquerors to impose any conditions they please upon the vanquished. (Gaius Julius Caesar)
  • The sinews of war are infinite money. (Cicero)
  • Only the brave enjoy noble and glorious deaths. (Dionysius)
  • The true contempt of an invader is shown by deeds of valour in the field. (Hermocrates of Syracuse)
  • When there is mutual fear men think twice before they make aggression upon one another. (Hermocrates of Syracuse)
  • They have an abundance of gold and silver, and these make war, like other things, go smoothly. (Hermocrates of Syracuse)
  • Nobody is driven in to war by ignorance, and no one who thinks he will gain anything from it is deterred by fear. (Hermocrates of Syracuse)
  • In peace, sons bury their fathers; in war, fathers bury their sons. (Herodotus)
  • War is the only proper school of the surgeon. (Hippocrates)
  • Ye gods, what dastards would our host command? Swept to the war, the lumber of the land. (Homer)
  • To those that flee comes neither power nor glory. (Homer)
  • A wise man in times of peace prepares for war. (Horace)
  • And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.(Isaiah 2:4)
  • The outcome corresponds less to expectations in war than in any other case whatsoever. (Livy)
  • To brave men, the prizes that war offers are liberty and fame. (Lycurgus of Sparta)
  • The man who runs away will fight again. (Menander)
  • A small country cannot contend with a great; the few cannot contend with the many; the weak cannot contend with the strong. (Mencius)
  • Soldiers do not like being under the command of one who is not of noble birth. (Onosander)
  • To blunder twice is not allowed in war. (Latin proverbs)
  • I am more afraid of our own mistakes than of our enemies' designs. (Pericles)
  • He conquers who endures. (Persius)
  • After the war is over, make alliances. (Greek proverbs)
  • An alliance with the powerful is never to be trusted. (Fedrus)
  • Every care must be taken that our auxiliaries, being stronger than our citizens, may not grow too much for them and become savage beasts. (Plato)
  • An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep. (Arab proverbs)
  • A good general not only sees the way to victory, he also knows when victory is impossible. (Polybius)
  • In war we must always leave room for strokes of fortune, and accidents that cannot be foreseen. (Polybius)
  • Pardon one offence and you encourage the commission of many. (Publilius Syrus)
  • We should provide in peace what we need in war. (Publilius Syrus)
  • Necessity knows no law except to conquer. (Publilius Syrus)
  • In war we must be speedy. (Silius Italicus)
  • A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house. (Socrates)
  • The cruelty of war makes for peace. (Publius Statius)
  • Great empires are not maintained by timidity. (Tacitus)
  • A bad peace is even worse than war. (Tacitus)
  • The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. (Tacitus)
  • War is not so much a matter of weapons as of money. (Thucydides)
  • A dead enemy always smells good. (Alus Vitellus)
  • In war important events result from trivial causes. (Gaius Julius Caesar
  • Wars are the dread of mothers. (Horace)
Bella detesta matribus.
Bella, horida bella!
  • The fortunes of war are always doubtful. (Seneca)
  • Valour in war is the contempt of death and pain. (Tacitus)
  • It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for one's country. (Horace)
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.
  • Let him who desires peace prepare for war. (Vegetius)
Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
  • The blade itself incites to violence. (Homer)
  • Who was the first that forged the deadly blade? Of rugged steel his savage soul was made. (Tibullus)
  • So ends the bloody business of the day. (Homer)
  • What coast knows not our blood? (Horace)
Quae caret ora cruore nostro?
Alta sedent civilis vulnera dextrae.
  • They make it a desert, and call it peace. (Tacitus)
  • Conquered, we conquer. (Plautus
Victi vincimus.
Flet victus, victor interiit.
Timidi mater non flet.
  • A glorious death is his who for his country falls. (Homer)
  • All warfare is based on deception. (Sun Tzu)
  • The god of war hates those who hesitate. (Euripides)
  • The homeland is restored by iron, not gold. (Camillus, after Brennus sacked Rome, as quoted by Livy)
Non auro, sed ferro recuperanda est patria.
  • Woe to the vanquished! (Brennus, Celtic leader, as quoted by Livy)
Vae victis!
  • The true contempt of an invader is shown by deeds of valour in the field. (Hermocrates of Syracuse)
  • An adversary is more hurt by desertion than by slaughter. (Vegetius)
  • When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing more to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader. (Plato)
  • The strong did what they could, and the weak suffered what they must. (Thucydides)
  • The sinews of war are infinite money. (Cicero)
  • He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious. (Sun Tzu)
  • If a man does not strike first, he will be the first struck. (Athenogoras of Syracuse)
  • A wise man in times of peace prepares for war. (Horace)
  • In war, numbers alone confer no advantage. Do not advance relying on sheer military power. (Sun Tzu)
  • The purpose of all war is ultimately peace. (Saint Augustine
  • Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head. (Euripides)
  • If a plague asks you for a coin, give it two and make it go away. (Punic proverbs)
  • There can be no covenants between men and lions, wolves and lambs can never be of one mind. (Homer)
  • In war there is no prize for runner-up. (Seneca)
  • To everything there is a season; and a time for every purpose under Heaven... a time of war and a time of peace. (The Bible, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)
  • Fight for your country - that is the best, the only omen! (Homer)
  • Now in place of the young men urns and ashes are carried home to houses of the fighters. (Aeschylus).
  • Beware lest in your anxiety to avoid war you obtain a master. (Demosthenes.
  • A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands. (Seneca)
  • A man that relies upon thirty armed legions for his matters is always right. (Favorinus, Celtic intellectual answering to Adrianus when the emperor reproved that he gave him too many times rightness)
  • A spider, when it catches a fly, thinks to have done something great, and so does whoever captures a Sarmatian. Both don't realize that they are only two little thieves. (Marcus Aurelius, fighting the Sarmatians)
  • When all the world is overcharged with inhabitants, then the last remedy of all is war, which provideth for every man, by victory or death.
  • You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
  • Only through war a man can achieve absolute fullness. And only a soldier that risks his life willingly will be able to experience the ultimate illumination that comes with war. Living on the edge, giving in to the bestial instincts that haunt the back of each man's head, leaving your body on the way between the enemy and your family, friends and nation – with a clear conscience that supports the moral backbone of each warrior.
  • Let us make war, since evidently, you have found peace intolerable.
  • Don't rejoice in his defeat, you men. Although the world stood up and stopped the Bastard, the Bitch that bore him is in heat again.
  • I have not come to you except for the purpose of restoring your rights from the hands of the oppressors...
  • I want war. To me all means will be right. My motto is not "Don't, whatever you do, annoy the enemy." My motto is "Destroy him by all and any means." I am the one who will wage the war!
  • Originally war was nothing but a struggle for pasture grounds. To-day war is nothing but a struggle for the riches of nature. By virtue of an inherent law, these riches belong to him who conquers them.
  • I shall give a propagandist reason for starting the war, no matter whether it is plausible or not. The victor will not be asked afterwards, whether he told the truth or not. When starting and waging war it is not right that matters but victory. Close your hearts to pity. Act brutally, eighty million people must obtain what is their right. Their existence must be made secure. The strongest man is right.
  • Generals think war should be waged like the tourneys of the Middle Ages. I have no use for knights. I need revolutionaries.
  • I wondered whether you had become disgusted with us war criminals - particularly me, the so-called archcriminal of them all.
  • Do you think it's so nice to sit in prison after ten years of war for the Fatherland? If I would be God, I would do it differently!
  • We shall meet again. I have believed in God. I obeyed the laws of war and was loyal to my flag.
  • It is the curse of propaganda during war that one works only with black and white.
  • The war we are fighting until victory or the bitter end is in its deepest sense and war between Christ and Marx.
  • Enormous masses of ammunition, such as the human mind had never imagined before the war, were hurled upon the bodies of men who passed a miserable existence scattered about in mud-filled shell-holes.
  • We have lost a battle, but I assure to you that we will not lose the war!
  • Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
  • Well, it was war - I could not have carried on as an administrative officer if I had let myself be swayed emotionally by my feelings.
  • War is inevitable, and this time, it will be truly world wide. It will unravel everywhere and there will be no limit to its battlefields.
  • My knowledge of pain, learned with the sabre, taught me not to be afraid. And just as in dueling when you must concentrate on your enemy's cheek, so, too, in war. You cannot waste time on feinting and sidestepping. You must decide on your target and go in.
  • We are in no position to withstand a prolonged static war. Wherever the allies concentrate their forces they will break through. For us there can be no question of military victory or of winning the war. Our only hope is to hold on long enough to allow some development on the political front...
  • In the burning and devastated cities, we daily experienced the direct impact of war. It spurred us to do our utmost...the bombing and the hardships that resulted from them did not weaken the morale of the populace.
  • The memory of war weighs undiminished upon the people's minds. That is because deeper than material wounds, moral wounds are smarting, inflicted by the so-called peace treaties. ... Material loss can be made up through renewed labor, but the moral wrong which has been inflicted upon the conquered peoples, in the peace dictates, leaves a burning scar on the people's conscience.
  • Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than good bourgeois order. Brutality is respected, the people need wholesome fear. They want to fear someone. They want someone to frighten them and make them shudderingly submissive.
  • A pre-emptive war in 'defense' of freedom would surely destroy freedom, because one simply cannot engage in barbarous action without becoming a barbarian, because one cannot defend human values by calculated and unprovoked violence without doing mortal damage to the values one is trying to defend.
  • War never ends, it only pales, reddens, blackens, and lightens again.
  • A really great people, proud and high-spirited, would face all the disasters of war rather than purchase that base prosperity which is bought at the price of national honor.
  • It takes two sides to make war. It only takes one side to make a massacre.
    • attrib. 2ACR, 1991, Al Samawah
  • I am sick and tired of war. It's glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.
  • War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is the sooner it's over.
  • Man has no right to kill his brother. It is no excuse that he does so in uniform: he only adds the infamy of servitude to the crime of murder.
  • Those who do war work, while refusing to fight, put the "fist" in "pacifist".
  • A nice war is a war where everybody who is heroic is a hero, and everybody more or less is a hero in a nice war. Now this war [World War II] is not at all a nice war.
  • If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at some guys, throw one of those little baby-type pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think of how crazy war is, and while they're thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.
  • Аfter each war there is a little less democracy to save.
  • All wars are wars among thieves who are too cowardly to fight and therefore induce the young manhood of the whole world to do the fighting for them.
  • I have concluded, there is no war, in the history of man, that could not have been avoided by 15 minutes of honest diplomacy.
  • I have seen war. I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives. I hate war.
  • I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
  • I know war as few other men now living know it, and nothing to me is more revolting. I have long advocated its complete abolition, as its very destructiveness on both friend and foe has rendered it useless as a method of settling international disputes.
  • I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war.
  • If people would just demand that war be an absolute last plan of action, to be used after, and only after, all peaceful attempts have failed, this world would see far less bloodshed and fewer birthdays missed and more New Years spent together with loved ones and more summer fishing trips.
  • If soldiers were to begin to think, not one of them would remain in the army.
  • If we give up all future wars we must give up our empires and all hope of empire.
  • In war there is no prize for the runner-up.
  • In war, there is no such thing as a cheap shot.
    • Rubedo, the Crystal Blood; Written to portray the nature of war in a game
  • In wartime truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.
  • It is missing the point to think that the martial art is solely in cutting a man down; it is in killing evil. It is in the strategem of killing the evil of one man and giving life to ten thousand
  • It is well that war is so terrible — lest we should grow too fond of it.
  • Let no one ever, from henceforth say one word in any way countenancing war. It is dangerous even to speak of how here and there the individual may gain some hardship of soul by it. For war is hell, and those who institute it are criminals. Were there even anything to say for it, it should not be said; for its spiritual disasters far outweigh any of its advantages.
  • Patriots always talk of dying for their country, and never of killing for their country.
  • Peace cannot be achieved by force, only by understanding.
  • Quand les riches se font la guerre, ce sont les pauvres qui meurent.
  • Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, brain save both.
  • The most persistent sound which reverberates through man's history is the beating of war drums.
  • The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.
    • General George S. Patton
  • The purpose of war is to push back the unrighteous enemy, not to exterminate the human race.
  • "There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes.
  • There can only be peace when they will start to love their children more than they hate us.
  • There is no war crime, war is a crime.
  • This is the field where the battle did not happen, where the unknown soldier did not die. This is the field where grass joined hands, where no monument stands, and the only heroic thing is the sky.
  • War alone brings up to their highest tension all human energies and imposes the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have the courage to make it.
  • War begins with one man's lack of soul, intellect and reasoning.
  • War in our time has become an anachronism. Whatever the case in the past, war in the future can serve no useful purpose. A war which became general, as any limited action might, would only result in the virtual destruction of mankind.
  • War is harmful, not only to the conquered but to the conqueror.
  • War is sweet to those who have never experienced it.
  • War kills men, and men deplore the loss; but war also crushes bad principles and tyrants, and so saves societies.
  • War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children.
  • War should be made a crime, and those who instigate it should be punished as criminals.
  • Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die.
  • We make war that we may live in peace.
  • What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
  • What is War Crimes when war in itself is a crime?
  • When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing.
  • When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader.
  • You can't say civilization don't advance, however, for in every war they kill you in a new way.
  • We should not ask 'Why does an event like the Great War occur?' But rather, given our nature, 'Why does it not occur more often?'
  • What a state we are in now. Peace has broken out.
    • Napoleon
  • Come on you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?
    • Gunnery Sergeant Daniel Daly, 4 June 1918 leading marines at Belleu Wood.
  • War does not end strife - it sows it. War does not end hatred - it feeds it. For those who argue war is a necessary evil, I say you are half right. War is evil (where strife, there every evil work: Bible, James 3:16). But it is not necessary. War cannot be a necessary evil, because non-violence is a necessary good. The two cannot co-exist.
  • Whoever said "the pen is mightier than the sword" obviously never encountered automatic weapons.
  • "[...] the war, the true war, has never been one waged by droids, or warships, or soldiers. They are but crude matter, obstacles against which we test ourselves. The true war is waged in the hearts of all living things, against our own natures, light or dark. That is what shapes and binds this galaxy, not these creations of man. You are the battleground."
  • Look, all I know is what they taught me at Command School. There are certain rules about a war. Rule #1 is young men die. And Rule #2 is doctors can't change Rule #1.
  • Make love; not war!
    • 1960s saying
  • War is much more fun when you're winning!!
    • Martok (A Klingon)
  • We're Klingons. We don't embrace other cultures, we conquer them.
    • Martok (A Klingon)
  • There is always an enemy to fight. Sometimes it's boredom, but not today.
    • Maltz (A Klingon)
  • Wars not make one great.
  • "There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky."
    • U.S.N. sailor
  • Battles are fought on the battlegrounds, but are won in War Rooms.
    • Ashish Kerkar
  • Honor? There ain't no honor in this war. The machine-guns killed it. And if the machine-guns didn't, then the artillery did. And if the artillery didn't, then the chlorine gas sure as hell did.
  • Chaos. Panic. Disorder. My work here is done.
    • Kenpachi Zaraki
  • Today is a good day to Die!
    • Kaless (The first emperor of Klingon empire)
  • There is no darkness, only a lack of light. There is no cold, only a lack of heat. There is no peace, only a lack of war
    • Yoda (Star Wars)
  • Nations first develop need, next comes envy, after that desperation, soon war.
    • Unknown
  • I warn all leaders of nations: Abandon all your hopes of peace before you dare to pursue your wars.
    • Unknown
  • War is not determined by who wins, but who loses least.
    • Unknown
  • Sometimes even when you fight, you can't win; an unobtainable victory. Then... why do people fight, even when death is inevitable?
    • Gilbert Durandal
  • True, peace dulls the sword, but war shatters it.
    • Unknown
  • It is a tribute to the humanity of ordinary people that horrible acts must be camouflaged in a thicket of deceptive words like "security," "peace," "freedom," "democracy," the "national interest" in order to justify them.