User talk:FinalGamer

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Quotes and talk page contents[edit]

Hi, FinalGamer. I see that you weren't sure about personal quotes and added them to your talk page. First of all, it's fine to have personal quotes at Wikiquote, as long as they are in your User space. One thing I'd recommend is moving them to your actual user page, because talk pages are supposed to provide a forum for you to discuss Wikiquote stuff with other users (like I'm doing here with you). Talk pages aren't typically used for relatively static content. Some people (like myself) put quotes on their main user page; some create subpages (especially those who have a lot to say and like to organize such things). Basically, it's up to you, but we do recommend using talk pages solely for interuser discussions. (You may also find that frequent communication will eventually make you want to archive your talk pages.)

I'm glad you enjoy the Mystery Science Theater 3000 article. Being my favorite TV show ever, I've poured a lot of effort into making it useful, pithy, and accurate, and I'm glad that you and many others have joined me in this effort. (Some probably find my attention to it obsessive. ;-) I hope you are finding the rest of Wikiquote intruiging and entertaining as well. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Getting MST3K stuff[edit]

May I ask if you know of any free ways to get MST3K stuff? I found a few free clips but no proper downloads barring torrents that always fail me or are too slow for my limited daily net time. And please, no DAPcentral, I got pissed off with their stupid instructions to get their stuff.

Any info is greatly appreciated on Mystery_Science_Theater_3000, thank you.User:FinalGamer (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2005 (GMT)

I'm not big on obtaining creative works for free unless their creators specifically allow or encourage it. Best Brains Inc., the people behind MST3K, had a policy of encouraging tape swapping among fans in the early years of the show (noted by the admonition at the end of each shows credits: "Keep circulating the tapes"). BBI discontinued its encouragement quite a while ago (perhaps as MST3K climbed into Hollywood radar). I believe tape swapping is still discussed at Old Timer Billy Slater's Tape Tradin' Post, but I've not looked in on that for years. You might give that a try. (I looked at DAPcentral myself a while back, and couldn't figure out how to use it, so I gave up.) Of course, the stuff that's been released on Rhino DVDs is verboten for swapping, so the pool of "free" material continually shrinks. (Personally, I'm glad; I figure the more I spend on DVD episodes, the more funding and notice BBI will get for any future enterprises, including the unspoken possibility of revisting the SOL sometime down the road.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

MST3K quotes[edit]

I hate to discourage anyone's enthusiasm for my favorite TV show, but I'm a little concerned about the number of quotes you've been adding to individual episodes and shorts in Mystery Science Theater 3000. Quote encyclopedias like Wikiquote are allowed to cite copyrighted works on the rather nebulous basis of "fair use", which tends to vary in effect in different parts of the world. But one general principle is that one shouldn't excerpt a substantial amount of material. Since we typically have dozens of people editing any popular article, one of the informal principles we try to encourage is for each editor not to add more than 3-4 quotes themselves, to try to keep the total quoted material under the fair-use radar. There's no enforcement of this, of course, but we've so far managed to avoid trimming quotes, which is rather hard to do with any objectivity anyway. Might I ask that you try to limit yourself to a few of your most favorite quotes from each episode or short? Thanks for your help. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:22, 12 October 2005 (UTC)