User talk:Paddy whack

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Hello, Paddy whack, and welcome to English Wikiquote.

Enjoy! --Aphaia 07:38, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Kath & Kim[edit]

Hi. Please see the changes I made on Kath and Kim. I've added a ruler between quotes, which does a good job of seperating without much vertical space wastage, and I added in all episodes (this is often useful, if only to allow others an easy way of adding quotes. Great work on the page! If look at other TV show pages like Gilmore Girls, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel or Veronica Mars, you will see they are all converging slowly to be largely compatible with the layout you made on Kath and Kim. Thanks, ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:58, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Paddy whack, I saw your note on MosheZadka's talk page. (You probably noticed that I changed the article title to the more canonical Kath & Kim, both on WQ and Wikipedia, as well as fixing all the links and redirects to both articles. Man, did that take a while!) We've had discussions over the past two years about TV-show formatting. We don't really have a consensus on much yet, but as MZ suggests, most of the current activity is coalescing around some informal standards that are common between the shows listed above. You can find various recommendations and discussions at Wikiquote:Templates#Films (TV shows are very similar), Wikiquote talk:Templates#Film & TV Shows, and Talk:Television shows. Some show articles include quotes that use colloquial spellings to emphasize speech patterns, but the practice is as informal as everything else tends to be. Feel free to add a short note if you feel it useful; if folks object, it can be discussed on the article's talk page. At the current time, most shows tend to following the formatting practices of the most-involved editor(s) on each article, for good and ill. ☺ — Jeff Q (talk) 27 June 2005 05:25 (UTC)

Guidelines[edit]

Hi, thanks for all your help with the Kath and Kim article. Im not entirely sure whether I should reply underneath your comment on MY talk page, or just add a comment to YOUR talk page, but obviously i decided on the latter :-) I do agree that the half lines in the middle do look much nicer, i will incorporate these into any further editing i do on the page. In the meantime, I've noticed there isnt any set rules for editing the TV pages? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also my other big question is doyou think that a comment along the lines of (and im assuming you've seen kath and kim) " These quotes are written, to a certain extent, to include the manner of speech used on the show (ploise rather than please) but this is not neccessarily always included" or something along those lines at the top of the page? I think it's a good idea, but I'd like another persons opinion. Cheers, --Paddy whack 27 June 2005 04:34 (UTC)

1. Either way is OK. The second is preferable if you want to make sure you get heard. Sometimes, you can cut'n'paste my comment on your talk page to my page, and reply underneath, if you think there would be a lack of context otherwise (like I did).
2. There are no rules, partially because nobody really agreed on such. There are, however, widely accepted practices (like on the pages I pointed you to). My goal is to achieve a soft consensus before having hard-and-fast rules, perhaps not needing rules altogether because everything just looks the same.
3. No, I've never seen an episode of Kath&Kim, sorry. Sometimes, when pronounciation is important to the context of the quote, it's better to put in a phonetic transcription. Usually, though, I find that writing the words is just as useful, and less confusing. In any case, putting a warning at the top is probably counter-productive -- putting a note inline the quote (via ''[Note blah]'' is probably better. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 27 June 2005 05:46 (UTC)