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Buffy talk page edits
Whoa! I see you've been quite busy on Talk:Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Your edits have increased the urgency (for this article, at least) of a problem that we have yet to deal with on a global basis for Wikiquote TV articles: how to provide instruction to editors without interfering with other wiki standards. The main problem is that we have two article-related namespaces, main and talk, and neither is appropriate for guidelines. Using talk was supposed to be a temporary expedient, but like so much maintenance effort here, it's taking a very long time to establish real solutions.
The guidelines should, as a temporary measure, be moved to Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Format (in parallel with Firefly and Firefly (TV series)/Format, which I believe has the most current details on TV-show formatting). Ultimately, we've been talking about having a similar guideline page for all TV shows, with only the handy character lists unique to each show, but the 2-4 folks working on these things at any given time have also been busy with a few hundred other things.
Your formatting guideline changes seem pretty useful, and I appreciate your removal of my signature and timestamp, which I've never been happy with anyway. (Why things were this way is a long story which is largely irrelevant now, so it's high time someone did this.) But I'm going to have to rearrange or undo your other talk-page edits because they improperly confused the chronological order of actual discussions and deleted material that shouldn't be removed. I'll do my best to untangle everything so your postings are added in correct order after existing ones. Please let me know if you find any problems with my efforts. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Jeff. I know you've been very patient with my Wiki transgressions. It's jut that I can't find my head from my tail through the docs, and I read more docs/books/instructions offline more thoroughly than most people. I'll try to learn, though. xiner 16:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's a shame to have to say this, but our docs really need some work. Wikipedia's are more complete, but trying to tackle them can be like trying to sip water from a firehose. You fall into an unfortunate group of editors who enthusiastically follow the MediaWiki admonition to be bold in updating pages right from the start, although from an unusual direction. I don't think the MW help infrastructure accomodates such desirable users very well.
- I myself am a firm believer in reading documentation where available. Many folks act as if reading docs impunes their knowledge and skills, but not only do experts often come across tidbits they hadn't noticed before, but such experienced eyes can often catch errors and think of better ways to explain things. (If this is true for physical documentation, how much more important is it for wiki docs, which may be edited immediately by anyone who sees the problems?)
- I think you're doing just what everyone else does — learning as you go along — just a bit faster and more intensely than others. ☺ Good wikians who find problems with your edits should let you know in a friendly manner, but you'll get the occasional rude comment as well. I hope I've leaned more toward the former. Let me know if I can answer any questions, and feel free to question anything you find peculiar, too. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)