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Please read and understand the Wikiquote deletion policy before editing this page. Explain your reasoning for every page you list here, even if you think it is obvious. Also, always be sure to sign your entry or vote, or it will not be counted.

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[edit] The process

[edit] Requesting deletions

To list a single article for deletion for the first time, follow this three-step process:

I: Put the deletion tag on the article.
Insert the {{vfd-new}} tag at the top of the page.
  • Please do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use the edit summary to indicate the nomination; this can be as simple as "VFD".
  • You can check the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. This allows you to notice if the VfD tag is removed by a vandal.
  • Save the page.
II: Create the article's deletion discussion page.
Click the link saying "this article's entry" to open the deletion-debate page.
  • Copy the following: {{subst:vfd-new2| pg=PAGENAME| text=REASONING — ~~~~}}. Replace PAGENAME with the name of the page you're nominating, and REASONING with an explanation of why you think the page should be deleted. Note that the signature/timestamp characters (~~~~) are placed inside the braces {{ }}, not outside as with standard posts.
  • Explanations are important when nominating a page for deletion. While it may be obvious to you why a page should be deleted, not everyone will understand and you should provide a clear but concise explanation. Please remember to sign your comment by putting ~~~~ at the end.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Save the page.
III: Notify users who monitor VfD discussion.
Copy the tag below, and then click  THIS LINK  to open the deletion log page. At the bottom of the log page, insert:
{{subst:vfd-new3 | pg=PAGENAME}}

replacing PAGENAME appropriately.

  • Please include the name of the nominated page in the edit summary.
  • Save the page. Your insertion will be automatically expanded to the same form as the preceding lines in the file: {{Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/PAGENAME}}.
  • Consider also adding {{subst:VFDNote|PAGENAME}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the article's principal contributor(s).

[edit] Voting on deletions

Once listed, the entire Wikiquote community is invited to vote on whether to keep or delete each page, or take some other action on it. Many candidate articles will have specific dates by which to vote; if none is given, you can assume at least seven days after the article is listed before the votes are tallied.

To vote, jump or scroll down to the entry you wish to vote on, click its "edit" link, and add your vote to the end of the list, like one of these:

  • Keep. ~~~~
  • Delete. ~~~~
  • (other actions; explain) ~~~~
  • Comment (not including action) ~~~~

Possible other actions include Merge, Rename, Redirect, Move to (sister project). Please be clear and concise when describing your action.

The four tildes (~~~~) will automatically add your user ID and a timestamp to your vote. This is necessary to ensure each Wikiquotian gets only a single vote. You can add some comments to your vote (before the tildes) to explain your reasons, but it is not required. However, it may help others to decide which way to vote.

Please do not add a vote after the closing date and time; any late vote may be struck out and ignored by the closing admin.

NOTE: Although we use the term "vote", VfD is not specifically a democratic process, as we have no way of verifying "one person, one vote". It is designed to "take the temperature" of the community on a subject. Sysops have the responsibility of judging the results based on a variety of factors, including (besides the votes) policies, practices, precedents, arguments, compromises between conflicting positions, and seriousness of the participants.

[edit] Closing votes and deleting articles

Sysops have the responsibility to review the list and determine what articles have achieved a consensus, whether it is for deletion, preservation, or some other action. All candidate articles should be listed here at least seven days before the votes are tallied. Many VfD entries will have "Vote closes" notices to indicate when the votes will be tallied.

  • The sysop tallying the vote should add a "vote closed" header with the result of the vote, and sign it.
  • If consensus is for deletion, the sysop should follow the deletion process to delete the article.
  • If it is to keep, or if there is no consensus for action, the sysop should remove the {{vfd-new}} tag from the article and post a notice on the article's talk page about the completed VfD, including a link to the VfD discussion on that article. The {{vfd-kept-new}} template can be used for a standard notice.
  • There may also be a vote to move (rename) or otherwise change the article. The sysop's actions will depend on the specific situation in these cases. In those cases, a notice should also be posted on the talk page documenting the decision.

To avoid conflict of interest, a sysop should never close a VfD that he or she started. However, a sysop may close a VfD in which he or she has voted.

After a reasonable time, a sysop will then move the entire entry into the appropriate month page of the VfD log. (During this transition period, some old discussions are available only in the old Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive.)

Note: In the interest of cross-wiki cooperation, please check Wikipedia to make sure their articles don't link back to an article that has just been deleted. Also de-link any other language edition articles (though if you find that daunting, EVula is more than happy to do so).

[edit] Reviewing closed votes

All closed votes will be archived indefinitely in per-month pages at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Log. (A few are still found only in the old Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive.) See that page for details.

[edit] Deletion candidates

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: Delete. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Molko

No sourced quotes. (The links are to BrainyQuote, which doesn't provide sources.) - InvisibleSun 00:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 01:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 00:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Asbtain, but almost voting keep. Article says he writes most of the lyrics for Placebo. Most quotes clearly aren't from lyrics, but maybe some are and can be kept on that ground? Consider collaboration with pl and ru sister projects before deletion. jni 11:07, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete No sources for quotes. A living person, so the quotes need to be removed promptly. Nothing remarkable about the quotes, anyway. Unless remarkable quotes from a reliable source are added before the close of the VFD, delete. FloNight♥♥♥ 20:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Agree with everything said in comment by FloNight (talk · contributions). Cirt (talk) 05:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete The Russian and Polish versions don't appear to have sources; no help there. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott 18:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Attribution without citation is not quotation. Ningauble 00:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and above. – RyanCross (talk) 01:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: Keep. All unsourced quotes have been deleted from the article. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vince Lombardi

No sourced quotes. - InvisibleSun 00:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 01:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 00:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Keep because of improvements, with unsourced quotes to be removed from the page at the close of VfD. - InvisibleSun 19:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: Certainly a notable individual, if possible an effort should be made to find a few sourced quotes, but certainly not opposed to deletion of the page if the entire thing is unsourced. Cirt (talk) 05:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete The potential for a good article is there, but without sources, that won't come to fruition. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
    Keep Sufficient sourcing work has been done on the article that I think we can keep it now. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. I tried to find some sourced quotes, but was only able to find one. I believe this person is certainly notable enough for a page, so I recommend that we move all the unsourced quotes to a subpage until sources can be found. ~ UDScott 18:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep the sourced bit. Some of the others are definitely worth researching—off the page. Ningauble 00:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep the quote that is sourced. Delete the unsourced ones. – RyanCross (talk) 01:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep as revised, deleting all unsourced. I sourced a second quote. BD2412 T 05:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was: Delete. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emmanuel Teney

Questionable notability. A Google search reveals that Teney is someone who is quoted on many websites; but a search for who he actually is/was results in only the meager information mentioned in the intro to his page here. - InvisibleSun 02:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 03:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 02:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • No 'pedia page, in my book, is a sign of lack of notability. Not everyone who gets a 'pedia page is likely to be quotable (indeed, most are not), but every individual who gets a Wikiquote page should merit a 'pedia page. Also, seven Google Books hits (all, apparently for the same quote), but again nothing saying who this person was. BD2412 T 05:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • delete. Fails professor notability test. jni 10:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agree with nom by InvisibleSun (talk · contributions) and with comment by BD2412 (talk · contributions). Cirt (talk) 05:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete I don't want us to be dependent on Wikipedia for our inclusion guidelines, but seriously, if they don't have an article, how is a Wikiquote article warranted? EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Wikiquote has a total of a little over 16,000 articles (of which something over 2,000 are just placeholders for years). Most of the rest are entries on people (as opposed to, say, books, films, TV shows, themes, etc.), but to be generous, we have no more than 12,500 entries on people. Wikipedia, on the other hand has hundreds of thousands of entries on people. It has over 320,000 entries on living people alone. I think it's fair to say, as a rule, that having a Wikipedia entry should be a prerequisite for having a Wikiquote entry (actually, this also makes sense for books, films, TV shows, and themes, excepting that in Wikipedia books are often covered in the article on the author). BD2412 T 20:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
      • Hey, that works plenty well for me. My statement is more that I don't think any one project should make their entire policies dependent on another project's, but a certain level of inherited threshold-type policy is to be expected. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. ~ UDScott 18:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per InvisibleSun and BD2412. – RyanCross (talk) 01:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak delete. He is in Simpson’s Contemporary Quotations, but GoogleBooks and GoogleScholar show no indication that the erstwhile professor was published. As BD notes, a handful of books do quote him for an epigram or inspirational thought, but without citation and without mentioning who he was. Wikipedia would likely consider him non-notable if it came up. Ningauble 01:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Panic At The Disco

Fan site trivia. Nothing worth keeping. - InvisibleSun 02:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 03:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 02:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agree with nom by InvisibleSun (talk · contributions). Cirt (talk) 05:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. BD2412 T 06:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Insipid, typo-laden quotes. I think we'll somehow survive without an article featuring quotes like "We probably gonna, you know." EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. ~ UDScott 18:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. ~ Ningauble 01:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per mostly EVula (talk · contributions). Nothing worth keeping anyway, so no use here. – RyanCross (talk) 01:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Hardy

No sourced quotes. Nothing worth keeping. - InvisibleSun 21:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 22:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 21:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agree with nom by InvisibleSun (talk · contributions). Cirt (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. ~ UDScott 18:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. ~ Ningauble 01:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Unsourced, and the quotes look unremarkable to me. – RyanCross (talk) 01:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. BD2412 T 02:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Martin Tyler

The quotes aren't sourced and don't seem particularly memorable. It's as if the importance of an event for fans (a volley, a goal, a win) had made the quotes important as well. - InvisibleSun 23:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 00:00, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 23:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. ~ UDScott 01:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. As if, but not. Compare Casey at the Bat which is quotable and beloved because the words are poignantly evocative, even though the author was embarrassed by his own doggerel. ~ Ningauble 02:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Cirt (talk) 04:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Unsourced and unmemorable. – RyanCross (talk) 02:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Gerard Way

The page was given a PROD for "Fan trivia having no general interest." The tag was removed, which brings it here. The PROD reason remains valid. - InvisibleSun 01:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 02:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Space Ghost Coast to Coast

Possible copyvio. None of the quotes are sourced by episode. - InvisibleSun 22:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 23:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. - InvisibleSun 22:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - this much content = copyvio concerns. BD2412 T 02:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete I loved the show back in the day, but this is just a massive copyvio sink. EVula // talk // ☯ // 02:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Agree with all of the comments above. Big problematic page. Cirt (talk) 06:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete in its current form, but if someone were to properly trim and source by episode, the show is worthy of a page. ~ UDScott 15:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. – RyanCross (talk) 02:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Mortal Kombat

Trivial listing of every single line ever uttered in the game. It's a fighting game, not a talking and fighting game. We don't need lines like "I am Shao Kahn," and lines like "You will not escape!" do nothing to tell the reader what Smoke is like (and trust me, this comes from a fan of the games and a member of the now-defunct MK WikiProject). Furthermore, there's a strange mix of sources; some of these quotes come from the video games, some from various TV series (the animated one and Conquest, which could easily have an article itself), and some from the movie.

Eventually, I'd like to create a copyvio-free page for the first film, but I'd like to wipe the slate clean first. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:25, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 22:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. - InvisibleSun 21:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott 22:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Wiping the slate clean is a good idea. Cirt (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. BD2412 T 00:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. – RyanCross (talk) 02:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Mustaine

Article was PROD by UDScott because: "No sourced quotes." Prod removed without explanation and without curing the defect. Unsourced articles on living persons must be removed. — Ningauble 22:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Matti Nykänen

No sourced quotes. - InvisibleSun 00:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 01:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Jack Dee

Too many unsourced quotes. No sourced quotes. – RyanCross (talk) 08:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Vote closes: 09:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as nom. – RyanCross (talk) 08:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete unless sourced. Some of them are, well, memorable at least. BD2412 T 10:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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