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Demades

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Demades (Ancient Greek: Δημάδης Δημέου Παιανιεύς, Dēmádēs Dēméou Paianieús; c. 380 – c. 318 BC) was an Athenian orator and demagogue.

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Ὗς τὴν Ἀθηνᾶν.
Sus Minervam [docet].
The sow correcting Athena.
  • Ὅτι δι' αἵματος, οὐ διὰ μέλανος, τοὺς νόμους ὁ Δράκων ἔγραψεν.
  • Δημοσθένης ἐμὲ βούλεται διορθοῦν, ἡ ὗς τὴν Ἀθηνᾶν.
    • Demosthenes would correct me — 'the sow correcting Athena'.
    • In Plutarch, Moralia, Praecepta gerendae reipublicae (tr. H. N. Fowler, 1936). Plutarch also quotes Demosthenes' reply, "Yes, your Athena was caught in adultery last year!" Cited by Erasmus, Adagia, 1, 1, 40: Tritissimum apud Latinos autores adagium Ὗς τὴν Ἀθηνᾶν, id est Sus Mineruam, subaudiendum 'docet' aut 'monet'. See also: Theocritus, Idylls, 5, l. 23, Ὗς ποτ᾽ Ἀθαναίαν ἔριν ἤρισεν.—"The sow defied Athene!" (tr. Andrew Lang, 1889)—cited in Erasmus, Adagia, 1, 1, 41, Sus cum Minerva certamen suscepit.
      • Quotations:
      • Etsi sus Minervam. / Teaching one's grandmother. (lit. "The pig teaching Minerva")
      • In Latin they say Sus Minervam, when an unlearned dunce goeth about to teach his better or a more learned man, then doth the Hog teach Pallas, or as we say in English, the foul Sow teach the fair Lady to spin.
        • Edward Topsell, The History of Four-Footed Beasts and Serpents (1658) p. 523
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