Talk:Bob Black

images

@Kalki: Please read WQ:IMAGE: The connection between the images used and the subject matter of the page as a whole, and individual quotes on it, should be obvious and specific. (underlining by me) – you can't just say "he is against fascist methods of suppression → each and every quote of him is directly related to anarchism and the specific ideas each symbol stands for". For example, "You may be wondering if I'm joking or serious. I'm joking and serious." has no obvious relation to anarchism. Or, how is "Play is always voluntary. What might otherwise be play is work if it's forced. This is axiomatic." related to Wikipedia? Also, please remove the link parameters from the non-PD images on your userpage, ignoring the attribution requirement is a copyright violation.    FDMS  4    21:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

The last version of that page I can recognize as entirely VALID and legitimately in accord with Wiki principles is probably sometime shortly after it began to be altered from its clearly LEGITIMATE state in April 2011. The current state of IT is something I have sometimes commented upon, but far more often have suppressed MANY of my urges to comment upon, thus far, for some years, though it provides a VERY rich TEACHING tool as to the vile ABUSES of abilities not expressly suppressed in such ways as most people would be likely to be aware of, to develop means of overtly SUPPRESSING vital and useful abilities many people fail to appreciate, but I believe I have made it plain in past months and years that I consider it, in its current state, one of the WORST pieces of INVALID and ILLEGITIMATE pieces of crap which exists on this wiki, which was specifically tailored by a few EITHER hostile to images in general, for various reasons, or in at least one case, simply to ME personally, to effectively intimidate, suppress and overrule MANY legitimate uses of images. I consider it part of a concerted effort by a very FEW people, taking advantage of the general apathy of many, IGNORING the principles with which the wikis were founded, the principles which were clearly explicated for years in many of the guidelines provided at Wikipedia, and CORRUPTING the practices, to make what were ultimately ILLEGITIMATE intrusions and suppression of IDEAS and PRESENTATION rights SEEM legitimate.
I actually do NOT agree with all of Blacks apparent ideas or statements or attitudes, but I believe the images in which some of them are used to caption the images ARE appropriate to HOW he is using some of the terms he uses, and how he is applying them, and rather obviously so, to anyone not either deliberately or constitutionally obtuse or asinine.
I have MANY MORE ideas on my mind on how to respond to your arguments, and some of the points you attempt to make, and other situations you are referring to — but unfortunately I do not have time to develop them all right now, as I must soon be leaving for at least several hours — with perhaps only a brief ability to check in on things here at a couple opportunities. But as to your closing claim that I must remove all non PD images from my user pages — that I believe is ludicrous, because I believe that the general stance on their usage on Wikimedia projects is that the attributions provided on the linked image pages are sufficient in conforming to any licensing requirements. There is actually MUCH more I am inclined to say, as those familiar with my bouts of "verbosity" could attest, but I really am already late at dealing with some things, and must be leaving soon. I expect that I can have a more thorough summation available some time tomorrow, but know I might possibly be too busy to make as thorough a response as I would like to for several days. So it goes… ⨀∴☥☮♥∵ॐ …Blessings. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 22:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC) + tweaks

I will await your detailed response then. I never said you have to remove non-PD images, just the link= parameters of them, because otherwise there are no links to the file description pages. You could also create an "image credits" page.    FDMS  4    11:10, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I can see what you were asserting now, about the image-links, and this seems reasonable — though a bit tedious to go about doing. I will probably review the images and the links I have made form them within the next few days and create an image credit section or page. As I continue to be a bit busier than other things than I expected, I will probably take more time to consider what I wish to say and do not wish to say about some matters at this point, but will probably extend some of my remarks here a bit within the next day or two. I am only briefly checking in to take care of some essential tasks, and must be leaving again soon after I take care of them. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 20:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)