Talk:Haplogroup E1b1b (Y-DNA)

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The single quote thus far on this page should probably be moved to the Adolf Hitler page, and this made into a redirect, because the narrowness of the subject is far too extreme to be likely to deserve an actual article of quotes any time in the near future... ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 17:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

The subsequent addition of a second quote hardly improves the situation, for this is not something one would ever expect to find quoted in general literature, or anywhere else for that matter. This article appears to be an overflow of details or digressions considered inappropriate for inclusion at Wikipedia.

I don't think the suggested redirect would be a good idea because, although the topic is too narrow for a quotations page, it is not so narrow that it pertains entirely or principally to Adolph Hitler. This would be like some strange corollary to Godwin's Law for redirects, whereby Moustache would be redirected to Adolph Hitler too, because he also shared that trait. ~ Ningauble 16:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The Hitler comment isn't even accurate. First of all, we're all descendants of Africans. Second, the M35 group originated in the Egypt/Levant area. Most in this group are NOT Jewish. Roughly 20% of Jews are in this group. NONE of that means Hitler was related to even a single Jew. It does mean he could be. It does mean he paternal lineage came from the Egypt/Levant area. It seems the only reason people jump to this conclusion because of the obvious poetic justice in determining Hitler was Jewish (though I would think it would have more value to tell that to Hitler himself rather than come to the conclusion long after he's dead). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 20:30, 29 August 2012‎
I have reverted your alteration of the quote.[1] Whether the ideas expressed are right, wrong, or indifferent, to quote is to report exactly what the author wrote. Anything else is a misquote. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The wikipage still needs to be accurate and presented in a NPOV. You cannot escape those requirements by saying it is a quote.

Hitler hated the Jews. To this date (2013) his cause of his hatred of Jews remains unknown. Did he fear something about himself? We cannot choose our ancestors. The NPOV position must recognize the consensus that Adolf Hitler was a horrible person.

...It is possible that the 'ultimate' male ancestry of Adolf Hitler comes from some non-Jewish ancestor... maybe some North African who fled the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb, maybe from some mercenary soldier of the Roman Empire. The Danube in modern-day Austria was part of the defensive perimeter of the Roman Empire for a long time.

The quote itself is colorful at the least for its ultimate irony, and it is likely to be remembered, so it merits inclusion even if its factual basis is ever refuted. Face it: had genetic tests proven that Hitler had paternal DNA consistent with the surrounding German or Austrian "Aryan" population, would the quote be so noteworthy? Pbrower2a (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2013 (UTC)