Talk:Clement Attlee

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Nationalist loyalty[edit]

Attlee's quote was changed from "any idea" to "every idea". I have seen two originals which quote it as "any idea" so I have changed the quote back to "any" and given it in full as given in the Talus book, which is available on Google books, as well as at http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000692622/Home (which is searchable by text). "We have absolutely abandoned any idea of nationalist loyalty. We are deliberately putting a world order before our loyalty to our own country."

  • Talus, Your Alternative Government (London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1945), p. 17.

114.77.104.114 19:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Bowden attributed[edit]

According to Jonathan Bowden, Attlee said something like "If the races of the world are mixed together, there will be no more war." This was supposed in the run-up to the Nationality Act 1948, and is supposedly recorded in Hansard. Did Attlee really say this or anything like it? Cagliost (talk) 06:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gandhi quote[edit]

The following quote was deleted

with the claim unreliable. With respect, it is just what Phani Bhusan Chakravartti reported from his conversation with Attlee. You may not like his opinion, but its just one man's opinion, it is attributed and it is not offtopic. But it can be moved to the attributed section. ᘙ (talk) 22:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ᘙ It appears to have been created out of thin air. Read this. Don't include it unless this is a popular misunderstanding. Editorkamran (talk) 05:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for this link. the link does not prove that the quote is incorrect, only that there is a controversy about it and should be given with a disclaimer. The correct thing to do is then to move the quote to the disputed quotes section. The quote seems notable enough to be reported and is also a poignant quote. I have included your link to the quote , please feel free to add some additional comment in the article about the quote. --ᘙ (talk) 13:58, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ᘙ Find a official British source which has this quote. This quote was created out of thin air and that is very clear. There is absolutely no need to give any credence to a fake quote. Editorkamran (talk) 11:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, here is a source, not from some Indians, but from an "official British source" which has this quote.

From your wikipedia block due to edit-warring in the G.D. Bakshi article it seems you have a bias against G.D. Bakshi, but including this quote in the disputed section is not even favorable to G.D. Bakshi (and which should not matter).

Your counterview article says that this statement is "widely circulated". This is all that is needed to report the quote in the disputed section. If a quote is "widely circulated" we report the quote, and if the statement is disputed, we report it in the disputed section.

Here are some more sources where the statement is quoted:

@DeirgeDel: @Coningsby: @Philip Cross: @TheAlderaanian: @Cagliost: if you some time, perhaps you can give a second opinion, about Editorkamran's slow edit-warring and repeated removal of this quote:

even though the quote is properly placed in the disputed section. The reason we have disputed sections on wikiquote is exactly for this type of cases. Thank you.--ᘙ (talk) 10:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also repeat that the counterview fact check does not prove that the quote is incorrect, only that there is a controversy about it and that there are reasons for doubt and hence should be put in the disputed section. And your counterview article confirms that the quote is "widely circulated". --ᘙ (talk) 10:18, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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