Talk:Francisco Franco

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Removed quotes[edit]

These quotes are particularly dubious, so I have removed them. Please only re-add them if you can reference some respectable secondary sources. Peace and Passion ("I'm listening....") 04:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The Spanish Republic did not find itself free of obligations. For the most part the leaders were Freemasons. Before their duty to their country came their obligations to the Grand Orient. In my opinion, Freemasonry, with all its international influence, is the organization principally responsible for the political ruin of Spain, as well as the murder of Calvo Sotelo, who was executed in accordance with orders from the Grand Secretary of Freemasonry in Geneva.
  • We have torn up Marxist materialism and we have disorientated Masonry. We have thwarted the Satanic machinations of the clandestine Masonic super state; which controls the world’s press and numerous international politicians. Spain’s struggle is a Crusade; as soldiers of God we carry with us the evangelism of the world.
    • On 11 September 1945 in a speech to the women’s section of the Falange in Madrid.
  • The whole secret of the campaigns unleashed against Spain can be explained in two words: masonry and communism... we have to extirpate these two evils from our land.
    • Franco on 14 December 1946, writing under the alias Jakin Boor in the journal Arriba in an article, "Masonry and Communism".

Antandrus' Vandalism, it's a shame nobody checks source before vandalizing[edit]

certainly there is good reason for creation of antanrus.tripod.com & all other links who came here to cause problems. If you check Lebron's edits, he explained findgrave.com is the authority on deaths, clearly it says nov19, so y was that reverted. People, u only became new enemies today, u got involved in mass between antandrus & poefan, it ll not end well... u need to understand that u already reverted other users' edits thinking its poe, so at the end of the day u r losers, came out bad looking, planted seed4future lasting problems, enjoy, your harvest of ignorance, lack of professionalim, etc... Francisco died at 6pm but nov 20 was chosen, well find out 4yourselves, i am not wastin time on ingrates! If you want it incorrect fine, he also deleted fascist, every bio confirms he was!

—This unsigned comment is by 66.2.70.1 (talkcontribs) . (recurring troll - using various IPs to cause what trouble can it can pathetically find amusing)
20 November date is stated as date of death in all major sources. The find-a-grave website is hardly the pre-eminent authority on history. Though there seems some room for speculation on the 19th date, as he had been in ill health for some time, insistence upon it seems to merely be motivated primarily by some rather ridiculous conspiracy theories recently dreamed up by trolls on the internet, such as this recent unwelcome visitor. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 02:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
the only troll is you, here's how to disprove your blatant vandalism:

even on pathetic wikipedia aka wikipeedia used to be saying on his nov 19th death it said possibility he died in the evening of november 19, so putting word or is absolutely perfect, of course you are writing all these things so you vanadls look innocent!

Newworldencyclopedia, allexperts.com says so, so again you make no sense at all as usual,

also you failed to answer other queries but that was expected!

—This unsigned comment is by 66.99.0.163 (talkcontribs) .

Unsourced[edit]

These should be provided with sources before being moved back into the article.
  • Aguirre miente. Nosotros hemos respetado Guernica, como respetamos todo lo español.
    • Translation: Aguirre lies. We have respected Guernica, as we respect everything Spanish. (Franco, declining all responsibilities on Guernica's carpet bombing)