Talk:Gautama Buddha

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[edit] Dhammapada?

The Dhammapada section in this article is larger and non-duplicative of the separate Dhammapada article on wikiquote. Considering the numbers of quotations from the Dhammapada, the significance of that text, and the potential for growth (in further quotations from the text), it seems to me that we should move the Dhammapada section in Gautama Buddha to the separate article Dhammapada with a clear reference accordingly. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. Thanks. tartaruga 17:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

This seems reasonable. Two things we should be careful of:

1. Since the original work is obviously not in English, we need published translations. To avoid potential copyright violations in either article, we should use a public-domain translation as a source. For simplicity, I would recommend vetting all quotes against s:Dhammapada (Muller), a Wikisource article that uses the translation from a 19th-century book edited by F. Max Muller, putting it well out of copyright.
2. It would be nice to credit contributors to this article's Dhammapada section with their contributions at Talk:Dhammapada. However, I don't believe it's necessary by our license requirements, because those contributions remain available through both articles' edit histories. Just be sure to include an edit summary that makes clear the material was transferred from this article.

Thanks for bringing this up. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

All seem to me quite reasonable. It will be nice to reconstruct relevant articles (one question: we have already Suttanipaka?; spelling might be wrong) Aphaia 20:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

• As per the discussion above, I moved the Dhammapada section in Gautama Buddha to its own wikiquote article, Dhammapada. I tried to maintain the original quotations as much as possible, but, due to copyright concerns (explained above), I had to significantly change much of the original material to conform to publically available sources.
  • In cite checking, I used both the Wikisource Muller translation from the 19th Century and Two other translations available online and made free for distribution by the authors and the Insight Society. When none of the available translations were close to the originally posted quote, I offered multiple, alternative translations. Hope this makes everyone happy. Or at least not vindictive.  :)
  • Thanks to Jeff Q and Aphaia for comments. tartaruga 16:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed a few of the many Dhammapada external links in Gautama Buddha considering that Dhammapada quotations are now in their own separate entry and no longer here. Links to translations of the Dhammapada thus seem less relevant in this page since there are no quotations to the Dhammapada here. If anything, the links should be removed and added to the Dhammapada article. Thoughts? (Since the edit was undone, I am guessing that their is an objection to their removal). Thanks. tartaruga 15:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Since there was no objection, I moved the Dhammapada external links to the Dhammapada entry (joining the Dhammapada quotations which were formerly part of this entry). If there are any objections, please voice them here before reverting the edit. Thank you. tartaruga 17:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "There is no wealth like knowledge, and no poverty like ignorance."

I'm pretty sure Ali said that...