User talk:JaGuar 0041

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Welcome[edit]

Hi JaGuar 0041. Welcome to English Wikiquote.

Enjoy! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Libel and personal attacks[edit]

I am sorry to have to post this message to a new user, but I have blanked your user page because it contains material that has been identified as a likely personal attack against an non-notable living person, without any attempt to source the material from reliable sources. The content of user pages is largely up to the user, but they are first and foremost provided to assist users for Wikiquote purposes. "Wikiquote:No personal attacks" is a key principle that must be observed by all users, and libel is not acceptable quote material. Further attempts to replicate this information without substantiating it by providing evidence of subject notability and quote sourcing will result in a block on editing. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was up to me what i put on my personal page, and ive also seen that the rules clearly state that your allowed personal quotes on your personal page, sorry allmost 4got to sign JaGuar 0041 09:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
User pages here are places where users can post whatever they feel inclined to state about themselves and their interests, within the limits established by the policies of the Wikimedia Foundation, and the purposes of its projects.
The userpages are not merely free web pages for users to post whatever they wish, and permitting incidents of libel, slander, or impersonation to remain upon them are definitely against Foundation policies. The continuing acts of vandalism, impersonation and harassment revolving around any pages dealing with "Greg Buk" and comments about him, are sufficient to prompt administrator intervention where unsubstantiated claims are made about him, including the claim of being him. ~ Kalki 10:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
You serious, cant even put stuff on my own page, bah to hell with this wikiquote nonsense! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaGuar 0041 (talkcontribs) 10:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

For the most part, Wikiquotians do indeed have a wide latitude over what they can place on their user pages. As Kalki said, however, there are some things that are not acceptable material on any pages within Wikiquote, or any Wikimedia project. First and foremost is material that violates the law or opens the Wikimedia Foundation to lawsuits, including copyright violations and libelous material.

You claim to be the "real" Greg Buk, but we have no way to verify that. Your personal testimony is irrelevant, just as mine would be if I claimed to be "Sam Lee". Several other factors provide us with compelling reasons not to believe your claim:

  • The material you added was essentially the same contained with the article "Greg Buk", which seemed less like a set of personal quotes than an attempt to smear this "Greg Buk", hardly an expected attitude of someone toward himself.
  • This material first came to Wikiquote's attention when someone also claiming to be "Greg Buk" complained it was a personal attack against him, which seemed far more likely.
  • Wikipedia has had to repeatedly delete re-creations its own "Greg Buk" article, which strongly suggests that there are one or more individuals that were determined to ignore WP practices, and who have apparently moved their fight to Wikiquote, a pattern we're quite familiar with here.
  • The juvenile quality of the writing involved not only in these "quotes" but in the arguments at WQ:VFD supported the growing suspicion that the participants in this debate are all school children, who frequently demonstrate an inability or unwillingness to follow Wikiquote policies or engage in reasoned discussion.

Regardless of who or how old they are, editors are not allowed to use their user pages as a soapbox to promote non-project-related matters or to attack people, especially non-famous people, and most especially children, even if they themselves are children. Wikiquote is not a schoolyard, it is a serious project to collect quotes from famous people and creative works. If you have read Wikiquote:Userpage (i.e., "the rules"), as you suggest above, please re-read the section titled "Ownership and editing of pages in the user space", especially the line:

Community policies, including no personal attacks, apply to your user space just as they do elsewhere.

Even if you were "Greg Buk", your attempts to promote an article about yourself without providing any evidence that you are notable on the world stage (not within a single school), combined with your lack of editing on any other subject, would mark you as a "vanity" editor, not someone interested in contributing to Wikiquote's purpose.

You seem to feel that Wikiquote should be like MySpace, where you can write anything you wish on your user page. Wikiquote:What Wikiquote is not clearly states that "Wikiquote is not a personal website". User pages exist to help users serve the goals of Wikiquote with some freedom to express themselves, but they are not social networking services. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

I have blocked your account for 3 days for vandalizing someone else's posting (mine) to a user talk page.[1] Changing other users' talk-page posts, even on your own talk page, is a violation of Wikipedia:Etiquette. Replacing words in such material with scatalogical terms is vandalism.

You have consistently demonstrated an unwillingness to follow Wikiquote policies and practices. If you do so again, your user account may be blocked permanently. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)