Talk:Twilight (novel)

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Twilight (novel) page.


The Twilight quotes page should be bonded into the Twilight (novel) page. This is for some good reasons. It's hard to find the page. It took me about 20 minutes to find the page. It's really hard. So, please just put the quotes on the twilight page. I am a huge Twilight fan and I'd like to only have 2 type something in and scroll to where i want. Its just easier for everyone that way.

http://www.twilighters4life.piczo.com —This unsigned comment is by 71.72.47.135 (talkcontribs) 19:15, 14 August 2008.

Merge[edit]

I incorporated the best quotes from the Twilight article that were from the first book into Twilight (novel). I will eventually make proper articles for the subsequent books as well, after which the Twilight article will not be needed for listing quotes. Perhaps it could be moved to Twilight (series) and serve a similar purpose as Harry Potter (series), by briefly explaining the series and listing (and linking to) all of the included books. Andrea (talk) 06:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the work you've been doing on this article. Right now the page is formatted as if it were a film, with sections for character lines and dialogue. For a book article, we would need to have quotes sourced by chapter and in sequential order within each chapter. Anyone who reads the article would then be able to find the quotes in the book. Your proposal about merging sounds like a good idea. Would the Twilight (series) page link the other books to the Stephenie Meyer page, where quotes from them already exist, or were you planning separate articles for each book? - InvisibleSun 19:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I was using some of the Harry Potter book articles as reference, which listed the quotes by character/dialogue, but I wasn't sure if this was the correct method. If it is not, I can change it. But I actually made sure the quotes (within each section) were listed sequentially, and I plan on adding exact page numbers once I have my book back with me in a few days. Would this be alright, or do the headings still have to be by chapter instead of by character? As per your question, I was planning on creating separate articles for each book. Should quotes like this still be included on an author's page, or should such articles be reserved for quotes said by the author in the real world (meaning, not through literary characters)? Andrea (talk) 01:52, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Those Harry Potter book pages, I'm afraid, were misleading. They'll need to be reworked for book formatting. We prefer to have book quotes on authors' pages so that readers can see all of the books at once; but if the total quotes would give the page more than about 30 KB, then it's okay to create separate pages for the books with the most quotes. Right now we're imposing limits on the number of quotes so that we don't violate copyright restrictions. For books, the limits are described here. - InvisibleSun 02:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok thanks, I'll reformat the article properly. But do you mean that if one article, including quotes for all of the books, is less than 30 KB, then individual novel pages such as this one shouldn't exist? Right now this one is around 6 KB, and there are 4 books in this series, so it's possible that it would be under the limit to include all quotes in one article (but possibly only on a "series" page, rather than the author's, as the author has written books outside of this series). Change of thought- this might not be the case for this series, since more quotes will without a doubt be added to this article. Andrea (talk) 02:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
We ordinarily prefer as much as possible to have all of an author's quotes on one page. Creating separate articles tends to encourage pages which keep enlarging to the point that they exceed any copyright limits. Based on the size of this page and the Stephenie Meyer page, however, it would certainly not be unreasonable to keep Twilight separate on the grounds that the Meyer article will probably get closer to 30 KB when quotes are added to the books on that page. Thanks to your work on this page, I'm going to remove the copyrightcheck tag, since the quotes now are not excessive for a book which, according to its Wikipedia article, is 512 pages in hardcover and 544 pages in paperback. - InvisibleSun 19:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)