User talk:Goose friend

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Hello, Goose friend, and welcome to English Wikiquote.

Enjoy! ~ DanielTom (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions, but please make sure your additions are properly sourced. Unsourced quotations should not be added to existing articles. Thanks again. ~ DanielTom (talk) 00:43, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Voltaire[edit]

I have reverted your edit to the Voltaire article. We need to be careful not to turn its Misattributed section into a long commentary about how Voltaire didn't actually mean what he wrote. Please note that the original quote is already cited in the article. Voltaire wrote: La nôtre est sans contredit la plus ridicule, la plus absurde et la plus sanguinaire qui ait jamais infecté le monde. He was speaking of religions, and when he says "our" ["nôtre"] religion "is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and the most bloody that has ever infected the world", he is clearly talking about Christianity (which was their religion). You may add a small note, below the quote, stating that "Christianity" isn't explicit in the text, but please don't add long POV commentaries about Voltaire's general views on religion not directly related to the quote. Thanks ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:45, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

  • I must admit I did not realize that a part of the quote was already in the article, and I apologize for the drawback.
  • Nevertheless, the part "Christianity is" is still missatributed, and trickily added by modern authors and antichristian circles.
  • If one takes only into account what Voltaire himself wrote, in context, without fear or favor, it is clear that Voltaire was referring to Catholicism, and not to Christianity as a whole.
  • You know that France was specifically a Catholic country at that time. The context is a Catholic anti-protestant France. You know that not all Christianity is Catholicism, don't you? You know that Catholic authorities also persecuted Christian minorities, don't you? Thus, I hope to see you using these two terms properly, in order not to be deceitful.
  • I admit my comments were not short, but I still think that at least a comment about the misquote is necessary in the article, because Voltaire never said the added part "Christianity is", and the lying pen of some people has twisted the original. Before doing anything, I'm seeking forward for your reply.--Goose friend (talk) 21:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Replied at my talk page. Christianity was France's religion at the time, the rest are denominations. (Of course the Catholic Church doesn't like to be seen as just a denomination, and I am not going to argue against that.) As I've told you, if you think it is warranted, you should feel free add a note below the quote saying that it is sometimes misquoted as "Christianity is...", given that the word "Christianity" was not used in the original, but don't take that opportunity to explain Voltaire's views on Christianity, or his views on atheism, &c. Don't make it a mile long. Okay, DanielTom (talk) 22:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
I shall refrain myself from long commentaries in the article, but you should not be biased, just like those modern authors who deceptively put the words "Christianity is" in the mouth of Voltaire. You may refuse to admit it, but indeed the religion of France at that time was Catholicism I'd yo suggest to go and learn the differences between the original doctrine of Christianity and the sectarianism of the Catholic institution. Thousands of people and figures throughout the ages have pointed out the differences, even before the so-called reformation, and Voltaire himself spoke a lot about the differences he perceived, in his dictionary. And finally, I just wanted to let you know that indeed Voltaire was an advocate of pacifist religious ministries. He said that "the institution of religion exists only to keep mankind in order, and to make men merit the goodness of God by their virtue." Have a good day. --Goose friend (talk) 22:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
While it would be false to say that all Christians are Catholics, it is correct to say that Catholics are Christians (even if there are disagreements on the details). I know France was a Catholic country. I just don't want notes about quotes to be turned into proselytizing. Please re-read my suggestion for a shorter and more impartial note, above. Do feel free to add, below the quote, a note saying that it is sometimes misquoted as "Christianity is...", and that Voltaire was referring to Catholicism specifically, if you like. Needless to say, I appreciate your good work on this article and others, but I still think that note was too much. Sincerely, DanielTom (talk) 00:14, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
That finally seems pretty much more unbiased. I've added the note. Thanks and blessings.--Goose friend (talk) 20:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Samuel Vince[edit]

Thanks for creating the lemma on Samuel Vince. However, the text selection you made doesn't classify as quotes. Couldn't you consider recreating the whole article on Wikisource, or Wikibooks and add a selection here? -- Mdd (talk) 18:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I didn't understand at first these were quotes from a secondary source. I made some rearrangements (and added an image), and I think it is ok now. -- Mdd (talk) 18:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, the article now looks fantastic.--Goose friend (talk) 02:22, 25 June 2014 (UTC)