Sall Grover

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Sall Grover in 2021

Sall Grover is an Australian businesswoman who founded Giggle for Girls, a social media app as a safe space for biological women (like Women's refuges) who have suffered abuse from men and for more more frivolous reasons. Grover, and her app, were the subject of a legal challenge for its policy of excluding transgender women. Earlier, Grover worked in the film industry in the United States and Australia as a production assistant and as a screenwriter.

Quotes

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2022–2023

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  • Not everyone’s gender identity matches the reproductive organs they were born with therefore you have been reclassified as a birthing person rather than a mother. Now are you ready to try chest feeding?
  • It's terrifying and I've had to navigate it all through nine months of ­pregnancy. I created a social network for women, myself included, where we can relax on the ­internet away from death threats and toxic male behaviour.
  • We wanted to do equity crowd funding, which would allow women to have ownership in a start-up and have investment in the financial world. No equity crowd funding company would work with us, saying the trans issue was like an open wound.
  • It's always been you can't discriminate against anyone except when you can … (because it is) for a positive reason for that group.
    Female only spaces have existed for such a long time and there has been no controversy in it.
  • My goal is not to strip anyone of their rights. My goal is to make everybody's rights clear.
    If we can get clarity on this hopefully it will stop the fighting between women and trans activists.
    Let's try and find positives to move forward.
  • [Giggle was intended to be] a little corner of the Internet where women from all over the world could have a refuge away from men. It could be for serious reasons, very superficial reasons, or very practical reasons. It would be a place without harassment, 'mansplaining', 'dick pics', stalking, and aggression, and other male patterned online behaviour. A place to vent and get advice from other women and find out what was happening in the real world in a female-only environment.

2024–present

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  • I don’t think it's kind to expect a woman to see a man as a woman.
  • [From a series of posts on X/Twitter] I'm being taken to federal court by a man who claims to be a woman because he wants to use a woman-only space I created. [...] There isn't a woman in the world who'd have to take me to court to use this woman only space. It takes a man for this case to exist.
  • [Statement in court ] I wanted to create a safe, women-only space in the palm of your hand. [...] It is a legal fiction that Tickle is a woman. His birth certificate has been altered from male to female, but he is a biological man, and always will be.
    We are taking a stand for the safety of all women’s only spaces, but also for basic reality and truth, which the law should reflect.

About Grover

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  • If Tickle wins, it will establish that males have a legal right, not just to the female sex category, but to all female spaces, including hospital wards, sports facilities, domestic violence refuges, rape crisis centres, and prisons.
  • While there are a number of trans-only apps and straight women don't demand access to, say, the gay dating app Grindr, activists want Giggle removed from the Apple platform. They claim its software reads black women's faces as male. Grover says her users are women of all races from 88 countries and this is a vicious slur. Their true motivation is her female-only policy. It enrages a movement whose idea of activism is getting domestic violence refuges defunded for remaining single-sex; which can’t abide women having one damn thing.
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