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RevisionSlider[edit]

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)[edit]

21:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Quick Question About Quote of the Day[edit]

So can I take a part of a quote and put it as a suggestion? 2602:306:34AB:2830:D164:4C99:4E83:358A 21:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@2602:306:34AB:2830:D164:4C99:4E83:358A: You cannot self-publish quotes (except for maybe at a userpage) so unless you were part of a historic quotation, then no. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Two pages to merge[edit]

There are William Edmondstoune Aytoun and W. E. Aytoun, which one is the correct? --Superchilum (talk) 07:16, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Good point - I've merged the two together onto the William Edmondstoune Aytoun page, as this title matches that on Wikipedia, and made the other a redirect. Thanks. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:14, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections[edit]

21:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Search results from Wikiquote now part of English Wikipedia's search system[edit]

Just to let you know, as announced via mailing list service, English Wikipedia is now receiving search results of this project, Wikiquote, intended to direct Wikipedia users to this project. Currently, an option to suppress the search results of this project from the English Wikipedia search system is proposed at Village pump's "proposal" subpage, where I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the head's up. BD2412 T 00:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Two pages to merge[edit]

Hi, there Alvin and the Chipmunks (TV Series) and Alvin and the Chipmunks (1983 TV series) which deal about the same series and I think should be merged :-) --Superchilum (talk) 10:17, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

The same for Template:Talkheader and Template:Talk header. --Superchilum (talk) 08:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

@Superchilum: Thanks--that one was easy to do. —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: thank you :) what about the other one? --Superchilum (talk) 07:47, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
@Superchilum: Your merge suggestion is correct--I just hadn't gotten to it. If you're looking for support, I 100% approve. You can easily do the merge yourself if you'd like but if you're not sure about how to handle it, then I can assist you. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Quoting MST3K episodes on the pages for the films covered.[edit]

Would it be a good idea to include MST3K episode quotes in the about sections for the films they cover? I don't know how many of the films even have their own pages. CensoredScribe (talk) 21:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Blog "quotes"[edit]

Illegitimate Barrister‎ (talkcontribspage movesblock userblock log) keeps adding blog "quotes" by Michael Totten to theme pages, even after being repeatedly asked to stop (by me and others) and being reverted multiple times by admin Ningauble. Here's an example from today, DIFF:

When I googled that "quote" to see if it is widely quoted (or notable in any way), Google gave me only... 2 results. 1) That blog, and 2) Wikiquote. I should add for the record that Illegitimate Barrister‎ has already flooded many other pages with blog "quotes" (that no one ever quotes), and most of the time they are so gratuitously insulting. Just look at the country theme pages he edited, and then featured on Wikiquote's Main Page. It's really disgraceful.

See, everyone here reads blogs. But only Illegitimate Barrister‎ seems to think it appropriate to post whatever sentences he reads and likes in non-notable blogs (usually nothing more than insults) to Wikiquote, as if that were Wikiquote's purpose. As Illegitimate Barrister shows no signs of stopping, I'm bringing this to the community's attention again. ~ DanielTom (talk) 10:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

This is unacceptable, having been warned before I think a suspension is necessary. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 13:46, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Electronic games should be listed on the left navbar under wikiquote links[edit]

There are hundreds of video game pages, so it should be easier to find them; also the medium isn't listed under list of literary works, like radio and theater. CensoredScribe (talk) 20:43, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Films about revenge is way too broad a category.[edit]

I have some concerns over the applicability of this category, imagine films about love as distinct from romance films; most movies have a villain and a love interest in them; I think these themes are too broad. Revenge is also very loosely applied as a justification for mass murder in several films, I'm also concerned whether all of the Friday the Thirteenth and Nightmare on Elm Street movies should be listed. I don't think that despite the title Revenge of the Sith would actually count as Anakin doesn't actually kill anyone who has wronged him he just thinks they have to justify the climax of the film; similarly the long standing historical wrongs are only perceived by characters and not actually seen on screen for films about racism such as American History X or Do The Right Thing, or nationalism for movies about war. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Quote Investigator[edit]

I just found this nifty resource: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/16/product/. It seems like they do good work. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I asked them; it is alright to use Quoteinvestigator as a source, as long as you give gredit where credit is due. --Spannerjam (talk) 10:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Columns for references[edit]

19:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Accessible editing buttons[edit]

--Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:56, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:Harvnb[edit]

The template:harvnb does not work with template:cite book, using the |ref=harv coding. See William Luther Pierce#Notes. Neve-selbert (talk) 20:43, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Kreyol Ayisien (Haitian Creole)[edit]

Haiti has many, many proverbs and these are a significant part of culture there and abroad. What do I have to do first to request a Wikquote for Kreyol Ayisien? Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) (talk) 09:11, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

@Barbara (WVS): If you want to talk about Haitian Creole proverbs in English, you can post them here: Haitian Creole proverbs. If you want a new Wikiquote in Haitian Creoloe, that would be posted on incubator:. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:37, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Wouldn't Wikiquote be more useful as a database of quotes than as a MediaWiki?[edit]

I'm making a software application and I want it to be able to show a random quote, and I've found out that Wikiquote's (MediaWiki) API can't give a quote, only a page of quotes (as on the wiki), so my application would also have to try to read the page for quotes.

Rather than this, a database of quotes (where a quote, not a page, is the smallest unit of information) could give me a random quote, making Wikiquote more useful to my application. Also, it would be easier for a contributor to add a new quote, as you wouldn't have to edit a page, just submit the quote and its author and it could find its way to the right page.

Is there any effort to turn Wikiquote into a database? I am willing to help. I think the best place to start would be to accept new quotes this way.

// the database
const quotes = [
  { quote: "Yo.", author: "A" },
  { quote: "Eh?", author: "B" }
];

// Add a quote.
// add_quote("What?", "Dad")
const add_quote = (quote, author) =>
  quotes.push({ quote, author });

// Get a random quote.
// random_quote() => { quote: "Eh?", author: "B" }
const random_quote = () => quotes[Math.floor(Math.random() * quotes.length)];

// Get all of the quotes by an author.
// quotes_by_author("A") => ["Yo."]
const quotes_by_author = author =>
  quotes.filter(quote => quote.author === author).map(quote => quote.quote);

Apart from the quotes themselves, just this is more useful to my application than Wikiquote as it stands. I'm trying to say there's a lot to be gained for relatively little effort.

That is a possibility that we have discussed on many occasions. I am all for it. BD2412 T 15:17, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I didn't think to search the Village pump archives before posting this. I'd like to edit the header to suggest doing that, but I don't have permission. --WillWhite (talk) 22:16, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@86.183.20.21, BD2412, WillWhite: I've been an advocate of this for awhile now. See also m:Structured Wikiquote. I have a domain name for just this purpose. Are you interested in participating? —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: Yes. I'm thinking about using the parsing function in this library to show a random quote from Wikiquote in my application, then for the user to add the quote to a database, e.g. the one you're proposing. --WillWhite (talk) 19:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Vandal from it.wiki[edit]

Hi, beware Carlo Giovanardi: there is a vandal on it.wiki (the same who created the article here, i.e. Special:Contributions/79.26.41.236) filling that voice with details on trials and justice problems, which are off-topic on this project. I've seen he's doing the same here. --Superchilum (talk) 14:11, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Frederick Douglass at 200[edit]

The February will mark the 200th birthday of Frederick Douglass. On Wiktionary, we plan to feature one (or more) of his works, and so are transcribing copies from scanned sources during September in preparation. This will provide an opportunity for Wikiquote to add new quotations and amend citations for quotations, with a view towards possibly featuring quotations from Douglass this February in celebration. The precise date of Douglass' birthday is unknown, so quotes could be featured at any time during the month.

It may also be useful to note that commons:Category:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892) includes the illustrations from the 1892 edition of his autobiography. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:31, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


An example of a great Douglass quote:
  • I was now getting, as I have said, one dollar and fifty cents per day.  I contracted for it; I earned it; it was paid to me; it was rightfully my own; yet, upon each returning Saturday night, I was compelled to deliver every cent of that money to Master Hugh.  And why?  Not because he earned it,—not because he had any hand in earning it,—not because I owed it to him,—nor because he possessed the slightest shadow of a right to it; but solely because he had the power to compel me to give it up.  The right of the grim-visaged pirate upon the high seas is exactly the same.
    • Chapter X of Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave (Boston: The Anti-Slavery Office, 1845).
allixpeeke (talk) 23:42, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Would it be better to have a separate page for e-mail than mail?[edit]

I was considering creating a page for e-mail which would include the quotes about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Jr.'s e-mail scandals, however I was wondering if it's necessary to make a new page, or if e-mail is considered synonymous with mail. CensoredScribe (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

  • I think there are plenty of unique takes about the particulars of email versus snail mail that it's worth having email as a topic. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Redwall[edit]

Hi. Does Redwall (1987 film) exist? I couldn't find infos on this film on the web. --Superchilum (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Misquotes/Unattributed[edit]

I know you have a page for misquotes, but it would be nice if you could place them in situ. For instance, this quote is commonly attributed to Aesop: "We hang petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." I have never been able to verify and I finally searched all his fables for it, couldn't find it. Then there is the quote "There are no great writers, only great rewriters," which is variously attributed to Ernest Hemingway, Ian Fleming, or James Michener.

It seems to me that it would make Wikipedia a more useful reference if you listed common errata and misattributions, so that visitors could find the correct information. I realize that would require a major change to the website, but it would help me a great deal, and I think it would help a great many other scholars and researchers as well. —This unsigned comment is by 69.29.115.191 (talkcontribs) .

Agreed. Unfortunately, features like this will probably only be implemented once we have a structured, data-driven interface. I'm working on one slowly but I'm not very experience in managing data. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:05, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

30,000[edit]

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Congratulations to everyone for reaching 30,000 articles on this project! Does anyone know what day did it happen? :-) --Spinoziano (talk) 15:05, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

@Spinoziano: Special:Statistics says that we have 30,070 pages. Looking at Special:NewPages, filtering only the main namespace, and counting backwards by 70, we arrive at Communist society, created on 2017-09-06T11:21:34, by User:Rupert loup. (Of course, there are some caveats to this, so it's difficult to say for certain when the 30,000 was made or what it was, but that's probably our best bet.) —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Personal comment[edit]

In general how to add a comment inside a phrase? Specifically in this quote Teen_Wolf_(Season_6)#Broken_Glass_.5B6.19.5D there is a Portuguese word, desumano. Can I link it to Wiktionary? or add a translation in form of comment? Thanks--Pierpao (talk) 22:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Pierpao: I think both are possible. Linking to wikt:desumano is fine. Adding a short note is fine too (like this). I would put the note after the quotation, but if you want to add it "inside" next to that word you should use [square brackets]. ~ DanielTom (talk) 10:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, DanielTom--Pierpao (talk) 15:33, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Do the films Gone With the Wind and Revenge of the Nerds have plots in which a rape is focal, making them films about rape?[edit]

The wikipedia talk page for Revenge of the Nerds features a lengthy debate on whether or not the identity impersonation sex scene at the end of the film should be considered rape, and brings up factors of it occurring largely off camera and ambiguity as to whether or not the female character is actually aware of the guy wearing a Darth Vader masks identity, which I think merits the debate on whether that is how this movie and films with similarly heavily suggested incidents should be categorized. Many works for children will heavily imply subjects like death but skirt around directly mentioning it by name or showing it. I wasn't exactly sure what to refer to this as, but I thought as an issue with categorizing a major classic romance film, it was worth discussing outside of a talk page, if anyone else cares to comment on the subject. CensoredScribe (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk page discussions are not citable as proof of anything. BD2412 T 17:37, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Duplicates[edit]

Hi, I'd like to report a couple of duplicate pages, which should be merged:

--Superchilum (talk) 07:20, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Table of contents[edit]

I know that a table of contents appears when an article has at least four sections, but is there a way to prevent it from appearing?—This unsigned comment is by Just A Regular New Yorker (talkcontribs) 23:19, 16 October 2017‎.

Try adding __NOTOC__ ~ DanielTom (talk) 23:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean by that? Should I add that before or after the article?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Anywhere you want. Usually it's added after the lead paragraph, just before the "Quotes" header. ~ DanielTom (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Emergency block of 170.24.130.166[edit]

Hello,

Just a note that I blocked Special:Contributions/170.24.130.166 for vandalism. There were no local admins immediately available that I could find. Please change or remove the block as needed.

Thanks, Ajraddatz (talk) 18:34, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Are any pages considered complete and is wikiquote an endless argument over the most meaningful arbitrary samples?[edit]

I was wondering if there were any pages where every known quotation from an individual has been added already, and whether task forces for particular topics of interest might be of use in moving Wikiquote closer to completion. I find it odd that there's a limited number of quotations to add from ancient Greek philosophers, yet their pages continue to grow over the years with seemingly no end in sight despite multiple people working on them. New individuals will continue to cite old texts, however I rarely see any evidence quotes have actually been quoted by someone other than the translator. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@CensoredScribe: "I rarely see any evidence quotes have actually been quoted by someone other than the translator." Consider the following quotation:

  • Οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
    τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
    ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἣ μὲν φύει ἣ δ' ἀπολήγει.
    • As the generation of leaves, so is that of mankind:
      some leaves the wind scatters earthwards, but the fertile
      woodland grows others as spring returns in season.
      So with men: one generation grows, while another dies.
    • Homer, Iliad (c. 750 BC), Book VI, lines 146–149 (as translated by Peter Green)

Although this is one of the most famous and widely-cited quotations from the Iliad, Google returns only 1 result for "As the generation of leaves, so is that of mankind" (with quotation marks). Of course it all depends on which translation you use. (Here are a few others: Pope's "Like leaves on trees the race of man is found" – 8 140 results; Butler's "Men come and go as leaves year by year upon the trees" – 1 210 results; Rieu's "Men in their generations are like the leaves of the trees" – 993 results; Lattimore's "As is the generation of leaves, so is that of humanity" – 2 230 results; Fitzgerald's "Very like leaves upon this earth are the generations of men" – 144 results; Fagles's "Like the generations of leaves, the lives of mortal men" – 4 320 results; .....) I'll let you figure out the rest. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Why do you not add any quotes, about the Iliad, like commentary from well known professors analyzing it? You currently have just two that mention it specifically from Northrop Frye and Voltaire, are those seriously the only two notable commentaries that have been written on it? Also, are you close to being done with adding quotes to the page for the Iliad yet and how many of those thousands of google search results you think are links to the blogs from unpublished unknowns that are completely worthless here? Including citations for every academic piece of writing on the Iliad would be exhausting but is the sort of thing researchers do. The page currently indicates that no one who doesn't translate Homer has ever actually recited a passage of his before, when like the google search results, there are thousands. I think showing a particular passage has been cited once or twice would be a nice objective way of showing it's wide spread value to society and better represents the consensus of academia on the importance of particular passages. I appreciate you having presented the number of google search results for each iteration, that information does illustrate the general level of continuing popularity of a particular translation for a particular passage. CensoredScribe (talk) 22:00, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Let's look at the Frye quotation you mentioned:

  • It is hardly possible to overestimate the importance for Western Literature of the Iliad's demonstration that the fall of an enemy, no less than of a friend or leader, is tragic and not comic. With the Iliad, once for all, an objective and disinterested element enters into the poet's vision of human life. Without this element, poetry is merely instrumental to various social aims, to propaganda, to amusement, to devotion, to instruction: with it, it acquires the authority that since the Iliad it has never lost, an authority based, like the authority of science, on the vision of nature as an impersonal order.

This insight into Homer's mind, and into the purpose of poetry itself, is widely quoted and of interest even to those who have never read the Iliad. Per Wikiquote:Wikiquote, "quotations the essence of wisdom refined to a handful of well-chosen words." I don't expect there to be many more quotations about the Iliad that fit this definition, but of course I can't be sure. Maybe there are. (It is said of Virgil that, in writing the Aeneid, "lest anything should impede his momentum, he would let certain things pass unfinished; others he propped up, as it were, with lightweight verses, joking that they were placed there as struts, to hold up the edifice until the solid columns arrived." Wikiquote articles are constructed in a similar fashion, the way I see it.) This is a collaborative project that will never be "complete". ~ DanielTom (talk) 23:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

It's true that as a whole Wikiquote will never be complete, and historical figures continue to have material written on them, however given the abundance of material written on the subject the page seems rather lacking, it could really use improvement from the inclusion of contemporary experts opinions. Northorp Frie died in 1991, what living authors writings on Homer would you recommend?
Also, do you think William Godwin had anything interesting to say about Virgil, perhaps you've had time to read his entry in Lives of the Necromancers and found a suitable selection to add. CensoredScribe (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
No. I'm not interested in the stupid medieval traditions about Virgil being a magician or a necromancer. Needless to say, if you can find a "quotable" (i.e. not too concerned with particulars – which rules out almost the entire Lives of the Necromancers – and preferably widely-quoted) quotation about Virgil, that is notable and memorable, even if it is stupid, do feel free to add it. ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Excluding medieval traditions would result in most of the quotes on religious figures with miracles attributed to them being removed from Wikiquote, and you continue to avoid the question of what living authority do you recommend on Homer, perhaps because you don't know of any, nor are you interested in what any of the living have to say on the subject. Also you just said yourself it's a tradition, indicating it's been repeated in more than one source, so presumably if I just found the source Godwin used, you could have to concede that source has been quoted before, at least the once. Now define widely quoted, how many times one must be quoted to be widely quoted (according to you) and how it is someones words can start a tradition without them being widely quoted. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
According to me, if it is quoted (i.e. presented as a memorable or insightful quote, not a long excerpt) in any reasonably-notable (e.g. book) secondary source (just one is enough) about Virgil, you are welcome to add it to Virgil#Quotes about Virgil. ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Daniel Tom, the just one secondary source statement is incredibly helpful. Now if you would just mind answering if there is a contemporary living academic source you are aware of who has been widely quoted on Homer, I would like to know who would be the ideal person to interview. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't know of any "living authority" on Homer. But I'm no expert on the subject. "the ideal person to interview"? There are some videos on YouTube of Stanley Lombardo reading from his translations of the Iliad and the Odyssey which you may want to check out. (Here's the famous recognition scene between Odysseus and Penelope.) ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Using quotations for intros and racism in the United States.[edit]

The intro right now for the page Racism in the United States is a single sentence that suggests it started in the 19th century. Daniel Tom, ever constructive, thought it would be in the best interest of wikiquote to revert my edit rather than fix it or make their own improvements to the factual accuracy of the description. They also noted I didn't attribute a quotation in the intro which brings up the question of whether or not a quotation can be used in the intro, as Wikipedia often uses them in it's opening descriptions on a subject. I was also also told, this was POV pushing for the quoted section saying there are lingering socio economic effects. CensoredScribe (talk) 17:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree that the intro was a bit lacking (so I've expanded it, using the intro from Wikipedia). I would not recommend using a quote in an intro, instead we usually just stick to factual information describing the page's subject. ~ UDScott (talk) 00:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

How to add Today in Science quotes without risking the unprecedented specter of a copyright violation lawsuit against the English Wikiquote.[edit]

Currently there are a number of quotes on the pages for Organic chemistry, Botany, Chemistry, Astronomy, Machines, Technology, Nuclear weapons, Nuclear war, Nuclear power]], Wind, Geology History of Science and Science taken from Today in Science History; and thought it better to start a separate thread on the subject for those uninterested in wading through a lengthy conservation with Daniel Tom on my general conduct as an editor to address a larger issue. If it's simply a matter of reformatting the citations that can be done, but if all of the quotes Today in Science History has collected are off limits, or if using only 10 of them is acceptable, I would like to know why that is and how Wikiquote can ever hope to compete with larger preexisting collections of sourced quotations. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

You can't just dump entire pages from "Today in Science History" on Wikiquote. And, as I said, quote selection and formatting is not the only concern, because you also copied the references word-for-word without double-checking them and without attribution. If you are not double-checking (confirming) the quotations and references (one by one), the least you can do is add "as reported in [Today in Science History link]" to the citation. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:27, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Would someone like to collaborate on a page, or does no one like me that much or care about teamwork?[edit]

I would be willing to assist anyone with working collaboratively on any task at Wikiquote and would like to coordinate efforts through talk page discussions for those willing to speak with me, however I'm afraid no one will offer to do so I've been accused of medical conditions I don't have. It's been months since anyone thanked me for any edit despite the fact I've added quite a bit to major articles, and those few acknowledgements that I'm not a complete failure almost always came from Peter1C or in the very beginning from Kalki. I gather I am not welcome here, as at no point did an administrator say calling someone a mentally damaged five year old was unbecoming of this site, yet I was alleged of ageism and blocked by Kalki. Perhaps if I had done what Daniel Tom did and said I think user I bully has X disease...but than I realized they are just a troll so I'm not actually accusing them of that because if I did that I would be blocked, I'm just throwing it out there for others to latch onto.
Anyways, I'm leaving; if you would like to say your goodbyes or ask me to stay and help out with something, I would appreciate it. I would say this has been fun but being insulted constantly is not remotely pleasant and I could have learned these quotes without adding them and being ridiculed for being lazy by people refuse to work together constructively on anything, even a user talkpage. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

becoming an administrator[edit]

All of the articles that talk about becoming an administrator say you must have been an editor for a while. This is a vague term. What is meant by "a while"?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Usually a period of regular activities over at least a few months are deemed appropriate before serious consideration for administrator positions are initiated. ~ Kalki·· 02:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Presentation copyright[edit]

Does presentation copyright prevent a quote from being used if it is already written on another online source?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

No, but it means that generally presentations or listings of quotes should not be copied in bulk from currently copyrighted sources, and formatting of citations of any individual quotes should be adapted to general practices here, and use of any distinctive commentaries or distinctive formatting of citations, sections or pages used elsewhere rigorously avoided. The presentation of entire listings used elsewhere, or extensive portions of them in particular forms, should definitely be avoided. ~ Kalki·· 02:58, 23 October 2017 (UTC)