Talk:Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord

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The entry for the misattributed quote, "They have learned nothing, and forgotten nothing," itself contains a mistake — the given name of the Chevalier de Panat who actually said the original quote was not "Charles Louis Etienne," but rather Léopold. This is a misattribution I've found all over the place, including in published academic sources — though it's possible a lot of that misattribution ultimately goes back to this article, in an example of citogenesis. I published my research into this quote, and the Chevalier de Panat's real name, here, which includes sources both authoritative and early for his real name being Léopold, and a possible origin for the mistake in an 1888 American biographical dictionary. Because this is original research, I have refrained from directly editing the article, but wanted to flag the issue here on the Talk page. --Dhmontgomery (talk) 14:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too many of the quotes here come from unreliable secondary sources like "Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations" [1922]

Because he was celebrated for saying witty things, he is credited with many things which he didn't say . . . if you can't find a _primary_ source for the comment, you shouldn't add it.

I think the "it's the beggining of the end" statement was made in response to Napoleon's retreat from Russia. This would also make more sense than the 100 days. DancesWithGrues (talk) 20:53, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]