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None of the links actually clarify what the hijab is. Rather they support the idea that wikipedia is an unreliable source of information because people like the author of this page post links and quotes with unconcealed hate and venom and are as far away from objectivity as is possible.

Agreed, that the entry is terrible. I was actually quoted here and, taken out of context, the quote sounded very anti-Muslim. This is not the fault of 'wikipedia' - hopefully some people with actual information will make the necessary changes. -Rebecca Manski

Shabbir Akhtar[edit]

The original quote, in its respective language if possible, should be added instead of the attribution. Rupert loup (talk) 14:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]


A lot of content was removed in this edit [1] [2] This should be checked.--დამოკიდებულება (talk) 09:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The quote is more related to education and secularism than the hijab. See full quote --Xsaorapa (talk) 15:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiquote:External links[edit]

External links in a Wikiquote entry are used to complement the entry's content with additional quotations and references which could potentially be appropriate for inclusion in the entry itself according to Wikiquote's content standards. Appropriate links include a small number of external links to reliable sources that provide general information about the subject's quotations, speeches, and written works.

Because of their lack of reliability, external links to quote collections that do not provide citations or support for their contents are not permitted. In addition, links to collections of quotes which merely duplicate quotes already contained in Wikiquote's entry provide no additional information, and including them serves no purpose.

The links are to websites with quotes about the subject, the quotes are sourced and cited. Therefore the links are appropriate and should not be removed.

Appropriate external links should be from reliable sources, which is not the case for the links you added. --Xsaorapa (talk) 08:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is about external links that are related to quotes, not about links that are used as a source. The wiki is user-generated (but tit may be acceptable as an external link, just not as a source), but the other website TROP may be critical, but as a resource for and about quotes it is acceptable as an external link. Since it is not possible to have one opinion of if TROP is reliable, it does not matter. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 09:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to talk[edit]

  • Insulating women if they don’t wear the veil ensures that they wear it out of fear not faith… women now accept the position of being slaves.
    • Attributed to As-Said al-Ashwamy, Egyptian writer and chief justice, The Times of India, 10 December, 1993. Quoted from Lal, K. S. (1994). Muslim slave system in medieval India. New Delhi: Aditya Prakashan.

Quote moved to talk because I could not find with certainty who As-Said al-Ashwamy is. It is possible that the Arabic name can be written in different ways in English, and that it is Alaa Al Aswany, but I am not sure.

Muhammad Sa'id al-Ashmawi. Rupert Loup 19:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Rupert. Muhammad Sa'id al-Ashmawi is a notable voice for liberal Islam and would deserve his own article on wikiquote. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 19:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]