Talk:Jawaharlal Nehru

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Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable and precise source for any quote on this list please move it to Jawaharlal Nehru. --Antiquary 19:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • Facts are facts and will not disappear on account of your likes.
  • Failure comes only when we forget our ideals and objectives and principles.
  • I do not attach much importance to America's bombs. I attach importance to her great vitality and integrity. The strength of America is deeper and more significant than her financial power.
  • I have always thought that the best way to find out what is right and what is not right, what should be done and what should not be done, is not to give a sermon, but to talk and discuss, and out of discussion sometimes a little bit of truth comes out.
  • I want nothing to do with any religion concerned with keeping the masses satisfied to live in hunger, filth, and ignorance. I want nothing to do with any order, religious or otherwise, which does not teach people that they are capable of becoming happier and more civilized on this earth, capable of becoming master of his fate and captain of his soul.
  • Ignorance is always afraid of change.
  • It is a fundamental rule of human life that, if the approach is good, the response is good.
  • It is only too easy to make suggestions and later try to escape the consequences of what we say.
  • It is science alone that can solve the problems of hunger and poverty, of insanitation and illiteracy, of superstition and deadening of custom and tradition, of vast resources running to waste, or a rich country inhabited by starving poor... Who indeed could afford to ignore science today? At every turn we have to seek its aid... The future belongs to science and those who make friends with science.
  • It is the habit of every aggressor nation to claim that it is acting on the defensive.
  • Let us be a little humble; let us think that the truth may not perhaps be entirely with us.
  • Life is like a game of cards. The hand that is dealt you represents determinism; the way you play it is free will.
    • Variants: Life is like a game of cards. The hand that is dealt you is determinism; the way you play it is free will.
      Life is like a game of cards. The hand you are dealt is determinism; the way you play it is free will.
  • Logic and cold reason are poor weapons to fight fear and distrust. Only faith and generosity can overcome them.
  • Loyal and efficient work in a great cause, even though it may not be immediately recognized, ultimately bears fruit.
  • No country or people who are slaves to dogma and the dogmatic mentality can progress, and unhappily our country and people have become extraordinarily dogmatic and little-minded.
  • Obviously, the highest type of efficiency is that which can utilize existing material to the best advantage.
  • Our chief defect is that we are more given to talking about things than to doing them.
  • Peace is not a relationship of nations. It is a condition of mind brought about by a serenity of soul. Peace is not merely the absence of war. It is also a state of mind. Lasting peace can come only to peaceful people.
    • Variant: Peace is not a relationship of nations. It is a condition of mind brought about by a serenity of soul. Lasting peace can come only to peaceful people.
  • Socialism is . . . not only a way of life, but a certain scientific approach to social and economic problems.
  • The art of a people is a true mirror to their minds.
  • The basic fact of today is the tremendous pace of change in human life.
  • The forces in a capitalist society, if left unchecked, tend to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
  • The man who has gotten everything he wants is all in favor of peace and order.
  • The person who talks most of his own virtue is often the least virtuous.
  • The policy of being too cautious is the greatest risk of all.
  • The purely agitational attitude is not good enough for a detailed consideration of a subject.
  • There is no end to the adventures that we can have if only we seek them with our eyes open.
  • What we need is a generation of peace.

User:Akhiljaxxn deletions

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Akhiljaxxn has deleted these quotes

  • …he has all the makings of a dictator in him—vast popularity, a strong will, energy, pride…and with all his love of the crowd, an intolerance of others and a certain contempt for the weak and inefficient….in normal times, he would just be an efficient…executive, but in this revolutionary epoch, Caesarism is always at the door, and is it not possible that Jawaharlal might fancy himself a Caesar? Therein lies the danger for Jawaharlal and India.
    • Nehru writing in the third person about himself. November 1937 in a Calcutta journal. Quoted in nNehru: A Political Biography, M.Edwardes pg 245. [1] Edwardes, M., & Penguin. (1973). Nehru: A political biography. Harmondsworth [etc.: Penguin Books.
  • It is difficult to believe that in any other democratic state, [Nehru] and his cabinet could have survived…his survival was due to the fact that the Sino-Indian imbroglio had left the mass of the Indian people untouched and those inside the Congress who might have wished to topple Nehru and were in a position to do so were unwilling to lose their greatest electoral asset.
    • Nehru: A Political Biography, M.Edwardes pg 314 [2] Edwardes, M., & Penguin. (1973). Nehru: A political biography. Harmondsworth [etc.: Penguin Books.

Apart from what I already told Akhiljaxxn many times, the source of the quote is this

Nehru: A Political Biography, M.Edwardes

If you would like to comment out the link to swarajyamag, then you can this by following the instructions here

--დამოკიდებულება (talk) 09:57, 5 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Abhishek0831996's deletions

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Abhishek0831996, there is no rule against attributed quotes, for example , in a major article like this one, the first two quotes (and many more) are attributed. Please don't invent rules for quotes that for some reason, you don't seem to like.

If the quotes were disputed (for which there is no reason in this case), then the quotes are not simply removed, but they are placed into a disputed section (see the Disputed section in the same article as an example). -- (talk) 18:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Abhishek0831996 you have not replied to the concern but have reverted again.

I kindly request that you refrain from adopting a battleground mentality during our discussions. Instead, let us engage in a respectful and constructive dialogue to address the issues at hand. By focusing on understanding each other’s perspectives and finding common ground, we can foster a more productive conversation.

There is no rule against attributed quotes. Please don't invent rules.

If the quotes were disputed (for which there is no reason in this case), then the quotes are not simply removed, but they are placed into a disputed section (see my edit for an example).

There are many other attributed quotes in this article which you have not removed. You have only removed those which you believe are critical of Nehru, and not the many other attributed quotes that are not critical and have even been quoted at quote of the day.

These attributed quotes have even been used for the Quote_of_the_day!

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote_talk:Quote_of_the_day/November_14,_2011

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote:Quote_of_the_day/November_14,_2018

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote:Quote_of_the_day/November_14,_2016

If attributed quotes have been used for Quote_of_the_day, then how do you justify your deletions ? -- (talk) 12:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Also the quotes from Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations, for example in the article Flowers, have been added mostly by admins and are also attributed quotes, attributed to Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations. The quotes from Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations "were attributed to them much after their deaths". I have moved the attributed quotes to an Attributed section (should all attributed quotes now be moved there?) even though such a section is not commonly used on wq. Abhishek0831996 is not talking about misattributed quotes, but about attributed quotes. Also pinging @Koavf: -- (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ironically, the quotes Abhishek0831996 added to this page were also attributed. They have also been moved to the attributed section. -- (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Camouflaged censorship

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This is camouflaged censorship here Abhishek0831996 deletes a quote, without saying anything in the edit summary, and at the same time adds other material so no one notices the removal. -- (talk) 18:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I provided edit summary everytime I removed dubious quotations invented long after concerning people died. You are not allowed to put words into mouth of people.
You won't get upper hand in this content dispute by lying about me.[3][4] In fact you are doing no favor for yourself by assuming bad faith when it was not needed at all. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 03:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I was clearly talking about this edit.

Where is the edit summary?

In that edit you removed this content:

  • There is only one genuinely nationalist Muslim in India—Jawaharlal [Nehru].
    • Attributed to Sardar Patel, for example in Islamism and Democracy in India: The Transformation of Jamaat-e-Islami Irfan Ahmad · 2009

-- (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply