Talk:Joseph Smith, Jr.
Gee, isn't that second quote in the Book of Mormon section a bit, um, long? --Frecklefoot 14:17, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Can anyone verify the quote "I teach them correct principles, and they govern themselves?" If so, how early is it? I know it is repeated incredibly frequently in the LDS church, but I have never seen a Joseph Smith-contemporary record of it. --22.214.171.124 06:17, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Here is an interesting website I found googling the topic; the guy says through all his research, the earliest he can date that quote is ca.1860. Gary Brimley 05:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Here's for your time: Joseph Smith, quoted by John Taylor in "The Organization of the Church," Millennial Star 13, no. 22 [15 November 1851]: 339; James R. Clark, comp., Messages of the First Presidency, 6 vols. [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966–75], 3:54; also see JD 10:57–58. There ya all go.
Its all bunk and you don't need to beleive a word of it. D.R.FULWILER PhD University of Nebraska professor of History
Let's try to not make this a personal discussion.
If you do any research you will find that most of Joseph Smith's quoted words are actually recorded in journals of those who were in attendance. So in order to find when and where he said this exact phrase you would need to do some research because why would a speaker record their words after they had spoken? Very impossible to record verbatim what they said.
Money digger changed to "miner?"
Not sure why someone changed the words "money digger" to "miner." I've checked two of the sources. Here is the text from "History of the Church," which I pulled from GospelLink:
Tenth—"Was not Joseph Smith a money digger?" Yes, but it was never a very profitable job for him, as he only got fourteen dollars a month for it. History of the Church Volume 3, p. 29
And here's the quote from "Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," p.120, which I own: Tenth—"Was not Joseph Smith a money digger?" Yes, but it was never a very profitable job for him, as he only got fourteen dollars a month for it. Bochica 03:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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- I should never get discouraged, whatever difficulties should surround me, if I was sunk in the lowest pit of Nova Scotia and all the Rocky Mountains piled on top of me, I ought not to be discouraged but hang on, exercise faith and keep up good courage and I should come out on the top of the heap. Quoted in Memoirs of George A. Smith, in George A. Smith papers, ms 1322, box, folder 1, Family and Church History Department Archives, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=55a78c6a47e0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD
- Because the children are praying for me.
- Smith's reply when asked, "How do you dare think you are safe in the midst of your enemies?"
- If you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.
- Now gentlemen, you haven't bested me at the scriptures. See if you can best me at [jumping the mark]
- A challenge of sport to departing ministers who came to debate the scriptures with Smith at his home.
- Now, now, he's not all that bad, is he?
- Speaking to some little children about the rough-looking Porter Rockwell whom they thought had come to trouble Smith.
- I disobeyed God's command and gave the pages of manuscript to Martin Harris and I had my privilege revoked.
- After losing the Book of Lehi manuscript.