User talk:Hyacinth

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Hi Hyacinth — I appreciate the quotes you have contributed, but I notice you have been making wikilinks in the text of quotes. Personally I do not think this is a good idea, as it can complicate the cutting and pasting of quotes that people might wish to use in their own files. Unlike the Wikipedia itself, I do not think we should aim at such extensive inter-linking here, but perhaps an only an occasional "see also:" note after a quote, or at other points in the articles, or some interlinks within notes about the quotes could be appropriate. This is merely an expression of my own aesthetical and utilitarian sense on the matter. As you are probably aware their are not many hard and fast rules or even guidelines here yet, but I think links within the body text of quotations mars the appearance of things too much. Many of the quotes you have contributed are excellent. —Thanks, Kalki 19:34, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It took me a while to notice this, as I don't stay signed into Wikiquote and so am often not signed in. I agree with you, and I can't remember having linked to wikipedia within a quote, so I have and will stop. Are you referring to my linking of article titles to wikipedia? Thanks-Hyacinth 22:56, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia in the headers are fine — they are recommended. Links within explanatory notes are also okay… as such notes are intended to clarify. I make both sorts of links myself. I merely think any links within quotations themselves, even to other pages in Wikiquote, tends to mar their appearance. It is nothing so significant that I'd like to see it forbidden, or anything… I merely think it should be avoided.  — Kalki 23:41, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It seems we have a conflict then, since linking from within a quote is the easiest way for me, as I had been using them to compile articles around subject rather than source, but harder for you, since you must remove them to put them in another article the way you prefer. I think the linking is good and useful for creating pages, you think its ugly and interferes with creating pages.

Hyacinth 00:04, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I don't believe that I have ever actually removed any links within quotes that anyone has created. I do merely think they are aesthetically displeasing and distracting within the body of a quote. As I have acknowledged, wikilinks are very useful and indeed necessary, I merely think the preferred method of providing them should be to create links within notes, "See also" links, and the various header notes. I won't object any further if you really do prefer this, and as I said, I don't believe I ever have actually removed any from your contributions. I am not really inclined to imposing any more standards than are necessary to prevent vandalism and such. Do as you will. — Kalki 01:14, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
After consideration I agree with you and have stopped adding links within quotes. Hyacinth 21:41, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)


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Labiodental nasal[edit]

@Hyacinth: Hi Hyacinth. I've seen that you've contributed writing the article about the labiodental nasal in en.wikipedia, so maybe you an help me with this doubt of mine. I was wondering why in the Help:IPA pages for languages (such as Corsican or Sardinian) where ɱ is an allophone of m/n before f and v the symbol ɱ isn't used but replaced by a wrong symbol m, while in the same Help:IPA pages for the same languages where also ŋ is an allophone of n/m before k and g the symbol ŋ is used instead. Don't you think this is a wrong and useless distinguo? If it was for simplicity, then also ŋ should be transcribed as n (since in those languages this sound can't be found elsewhere). But this would make the transcription less accurate, then why doesn't ɱ have a place of its own in the list? It's weird to me such a different treatment... I thought you could enlighten me about this issue. Thank you if you will! Sioniasi (talk) 09:54, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[]

See w:User talk:Hyacinth and w:Help talk:IPA. Hyacinth (talk) 01:43, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[]