Talk:Harry Potter (series)

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Wouldn't it be better to keep those quotes in chronological order as they appear in the books? --AmiUhle 18:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Spoilers[edit]

I added a spoiler tag for the HBP section, I think that the Severus Snape quote could give quite a bit away to an innocent reader who's just looking for a few laughs, not to have the sixth book ruined for him. I hope I did it right.


Cleanup needed[edit]

The last book has no quotes, just marketing schpiel. All the other books should have quotes in standard book format (not dialogue format), including chapter attribution. The movie quote should be clearly seperated. For all these reasons, I've added a cleanup tag. Please do not remove until all issues are addressd. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Goblet of Fire Quote[edit]

This is rather nitpicky, but technically, this quote is by someone masquerading as Moody. Should we change it or not? "'Course Dumbledore trusts you. He's a trusting man, isn't he? Believes in second chances. But me—I say there are spots that don't come off, Snape. Spots that never come off, know what I mean?" -- Alastor Moody

This whole page should move to "quotes from literary works" format, which would instantly solve this problem. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:13, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I think I cleaned up the page a bit. But I can't correct the Half-Blood Prince one cause' I didn't read it yet. 71.105.5.69 06:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Quotes in wrong sections[edit]

  1. Professor Minerva McGonagall: The house of Godric Gryffindor has been a beacon in the wizarding world for nearly 10 centuries, and I will not have you besmirching it in one night by acting like a babbling, bumbling bunch of baboons.
  2. Ron Weasley: Piss off!

Both of these quotes are from the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire film, so I am moving them into the correct section.

I'm sorry! I didn't watch that movie, so I just put it there. Sorry! 71.118.78.62 03:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Proposed Organisation[edit]

I propose the quotes are organised as such:

Books
-->Philosopher's Stone
---->Chapter 1
Quote 1
-Optional explaination of context
-------
Quote 2
-------
Quote N
---->Chapter 2
---->Chapter N
-->Chamber of Secrets
---->Chapter N
-->Rest of Books

Movies
-->Philosopher's Stone
Quote/Dialogue 1
-------
Quote/Dialogue N
-->Rest of Movies

How does that look? 81.137.181.37 10:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Harry Potter is almost certainly much too popular to confine to a single article. I would recommend at least the following:
  • One article per film. (Experience here suggests people are more likely to quote from films than books.)
  • One article for all the books, unless it's expected there will be more than, say, a dozen quotes per book.
I would use this article as an index into whatever article structure you decide to go with, and move all quotes out of it into the appropriate articles. For the book article(s), I would recommend against chapter sections, for three major reasons:
  • Each quote should have a source line that includes page number and some information on what edition was used to source it. (See below for how this can be done.) Chapters can be included in that source line, if desired.
  • Chapter subsections (and even just book sections) encourage people to ignore the first point, that we need easily-verifiable source information listed for each quote.
  • Chapter subsections can encourage excessive (copyright-violating) quoting.
Wikiquote currently has a mixed bag of methods to properly cite book sources:
  • One-time citation: The first quote's source line can include a full citation, including title, year, ISBN, and total page count. (The last two are important for allowing readers to find quotes in different editions of the book.) Subsequent quotes need only the page number (and optional chapter).
  • Plain reference citation: A "References" section can include the full citation, so that the source lines for each quote need only the page number (and optionally the chapter). Template:Cite book is useful for creating a well-formatted full citation.
  • Footnoted citation. The first quote has a w:Wikipedia:Footnotes-style citation that creates a link to the full citation in the References section. Each subsequent quote includes an abbreviated version. This has a bit of a learning curve, and is not really worth it unless you have multiple books cited in an article.
Let me know if you have any questions about the specifics of any of these points. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Following your advice, I have organised the books into separate pages, except for the textbooks. The movies will be done later. The quotes still need to be tidied into literature format, though. RMS Oceanic 14:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Disambig[edit]

This page (or the plain Harry Potter page, which is now just a redirect to this page) should be turned into a disambig page, with links to each of the books and each of the films. ~ UDScott 14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)