Talk:Israel
I've deleted the quotes made by Hamas representative in Lebanon. I fail to see the relation between quotes from a terror organization spokesman to the state of Osrael. I believe quotes in the name of a country (if possible) should at least be from formal documents or politicians, hance I've deleted the quotes from the army Captain. Please do not change it back.
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More than half of the quotes on this page are irrelevant or very, very highly biased. I've tried taking them down. Sourcing "Israel: an Apartheid State" or quoting Hamas members or radical clerics numerous times, talking about Israeli soldiers emptying clips into children, should be sending up red flags. I've tried to take some of it down, but it keeps getting put up again. But this is ridiculous.
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Using MEMRI as a source is a bad idea. They are not the least bit reliable. I've kept the quotes, but moved them to unsourced. // Liftarn
yea this is pretty ridiculously biased against israel
[edit] Quote disputation
Just how seriously do we want this site to be taken? It cannot be taken seriously if it contains "quotes" of a controversial political nature that cannot be easily verified. Thus, the "quote":
"This story about the danger of extermination has been a complete invention and has been blown up a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territories. Mordechai Bentov, cabinet minister, cited in Le Monde, June 3, 1972"
...will be suspected of being pure propaganda, unless there is a reasonable way of verifying that it did indeed appear in Le Monde on the date specified. Otherwise anyone could add the following (fictitious) quote:
"We will fight the Zionist state in the media by fabricating quotes in order to demonize the Zionist leaders, and thousands of people will believe us, because they will know no better. It will be more effective than firing a thousand rockets into the heart of Tel Aviv." Yasser Arafat, Meeting of the PLO Secretariat, Tunisia, July 15, 1983 (from the official minutes).
...and who will be able to disprove that it is authentic? All controversial political quotes must be easily and clearly verifiable or they should be removed. [Ehad Ha'am, Dec 19, 2009]
All of the quotes in this article have citations, which is great. However, I think it is important to be extra-sure that these quotes actually appear in the source material. I have seen so many fabricated quotes about the conflict from both sides that I am weary (sourced quotes about Jews drinking the blood of Palestinian children, etc). Online, I cannot find any sources without an agenda for any of these quotes. Some people say they are true and some say they are not [1]
A lot of these quotes also seem to reflect the "Jews are out to control the world" message. This is controversial, to say the least, and I think it would therefore be in everybody's best interests if we can find a way to verify these quotes, even if we just put links to for-pay newspaper databases.
Is there a way that we can make these quotes more verifiable? 138.16.19.131 04:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I commented out two quotes with easily verifiable sources (links were provided). Btw, we have an entire section called "Unsourced". // Liftarn 12:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)