Joanna Cherry
Appearance
Joanna Catherine Cherry KC (born 18 March 1966) is a Scottish politician and barrister who served as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Edinburgh South West from 2015 to 2024. A member of the Scottish National Party (SNP), she was the party's Shadow Home Secretary and Shadow Secretary of State for Justice in the House of Commons from 2015 to 2021.
Quotes
[edit]2017–2022
[edit]- We then went to a smaller town, Sant Andreu de la Barca, to a health centre, and when we arrived the Guardia Civil had just left. They had broken down the door of the health centre and attacked people with batons. There were a lot of older people crying ... We spoke to a local councillor who said that when the Guardia Civil came to take the ballot boxes, he asked them for a warrant, and they just pushed him out of the way.
- "Joanna Cherry: "'Palpable sense of fear' on Barcelona streets" The Scotsman (4 October 2017)
- Cherry acted as one of international observers during the 2017 Catalan independence referendum and was invited by Diplocat, the public diplomacy council of Catalonia, but Diplocat was not recognised as an international observer by the UN. In September, it had been suspended by the Constitutional Court of Spain and the High Court of Justice of Catalonia had issued orders for the police to prevent the illegal referendum.
- In my view, it would be perfectly simple to have stronger safeguards in this Bill without causing any detriments to genuine trans people who wanted to get a gender recognition certificate.
In holding this view, I'm not going against my party policy. The Scottish National Party has never voted for self-ID as a policy at conference and it wasn't in our manifesto.
What it did promise to do was make the process of gender recognition easier for trans people which I support. What I don't support is opening it up to just anyone with minimal safeguards.- Quoted by Rebecca McCurdy "Joanna Cherry: SNP colleagues are afraid to speak out on gender reform laws" Evening Standard (London, 21 December 2022)
- Arguing fellow SNP representatives in Westminster and Holyrood are "scared to speak out" on concerns relating to the support of the Scottish government/SNP for gender self-id in the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill.
- In my case, I was kicked off the SNP frontbench for speaking up for women's rights and for lesbian rights.
And I've also received rape and death threats, as is a matter of public record. I've had no public support from my political party, despite those rape and death threats.
So, I think many parliamentarians are just trying to keep out of this debate because they’re afraid to speak up.- Quoted by Lewis McKenzie "Cherry: 'No public support from SNP despite rape and death threats'" STV (22 December 2022)
2023
[edit]- Anyone who hasn't noticed the violent misogyny of many so-called trans rights activists hasn't been paying attention.
Women like me, JK Rowling, Rosie Duffield and others who have been on the receiving end of rape and death threats know this all too well.
Signs such as those we saw on Saturday threatening murderous violence against any other group would cause outrage, but they are commonplace at such demonstrations.
I'd like to see the leaders of the parties of all parliamentarians present on Saturday squarely condemn what occurred.- Interviewed on Sky News, as cited in Jenness Mitchell "Scottish politicians and JK Rowling voice anger over 'decapitate terfs' sign at pro-trans rally in Glasgow", Sky News (23 January 2023)
- Four SNP members of the Westminster or Scottish parliaments were photographed in front of the sign (which also featured a drawing of a guillotine) at a Glasgow Royal Concert Hall protest on 21 January against the Westminster government's blocking of the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill. The politicians all denied having seen the placard and denounced it. An SNP representative said: "Violent or hateful language - of any kind - is unacceptable and has no place in the peaceful movement for LGBT equality and democracy."
- To many people, it will look like this convicted rapist has gamed the system in order to try and garner sympathy, and to end up in a women's prison. And I think a lot of people will be shocked by that.
So I think we should be talking about these cases. And women in prison are very vulnerable. Many women in prison have themselves been abused, and have suffered injuries over the years. ... But the point about human rights is that they're universal, and they apply to everyone. So I'm very concerned about the safety of women prisoners, with whom a convicted rapist has been placed.
And under Scots law, the crime of rape can only be committed by somebody with a penis, and that's a man. And I think we should call out what's happened here.- "Gender-switch rapist gaming the system, says Joanna Cherry MP" The Times (25 January 2023)
- An untransitioned trans women Isla Bryson (born Adam Graham) was convicted in Glasgow of raping two women (at the time of the crimes, the offender was unquestionably male), but began to identify as a woman after being charged.
- It should not be possible for venues or their staff to no-platform lesbians or feminists who believe that sex is an immutable biological fact just because of our sexuality or our beliefs. [...] That sort of discrimination is unlawful and I'm sure most people would agree it's not acceptable
- [Advocating for the protection of free speech from "the heckler's veto"] The failure to do so and the actions of some political figures in fostering an intolerant and hateful climate where small groups of activists now decide who can speak and what can be discussed needs to be called out.
What does it say about the Fringe and Edinburgh, the home of the enlightenment, when an elected Edinburgh politician can’t be asked questions on stage in the city they represent?- "Feminist MP ‘no-platformed’ by Edinburgh Fringe venue" The Times (30 April 2023)
- The Stand comedy club in Edinburgh had cancelled a booking for Cherry to appear at the venue during the Edinburgh Festival Fringe in August 2023 following protests from its staff. The decision was reversed after less than a fortnight with the venue saying their decision was "unfair and constituted unlawful discrimination".
- I was one of a number of members elected on a manifesto to deliver better transparency and scrutiny over the party's finances and governance.
I'm sad to say we failed to do that, and it wasn't for the want of trying.
I just regret it's come to this. I would like those who stood in the way of reform back in 2020-21 to reflect on what they've done. - I've always argued that the way to win a referendum was to persuade people who voted no in 2014 of the merits of our case.
The SNP needs to discuss both how we convince people to the cause of independence and also how we actually win our independence.
We need to put the sovereignty of the Scottish people back to the front and centre of our debate.- Interviewed on BBC Radio Scotland Drivetime (1 May 2023), as cited in "SNP MP Joanna Cherry says she has been 'cancelled' over gender views" BBC News (2 May 2023)
- In the first extract, Cherry is referring to the resignation of the SNP's auditors and the police invvestigation into the party's finances.
- [Colleagues response to her participation in a LGB Alliance conference] They demanded I had the whip removed if I spoke at the conference and really whipped up an atmosphere, very unpleasant, and, to use someone else's words, toxic atmosphere against me within the Westminster group.
- I have been very upset. I've sat in my office in Westminster on many occasions and cried because of the really awful atmosphere that I had to work in. I have no doubt that the hatred that is directed towards me as a lesbian and as a feminist is homophobic and lesbophobic.
- Interviewed at Edinburgh's The Stand Comedy Club (10 August 2023), as cited in "Joanna Cherry hopes new SNP leadership means 'intolerance within the party is in the past'", Sky News (10 August 2023)
2024–present
[edit]- [Cherry was concerned about the] absence of tailored defences for women who hold the view that sex is immutable and who wish to speak plainly about this.
- I have little doubt that this new law will be weaponised by trans rights activists to try to silence, and worse still, criminalise women who do not share their beliefs.
A cursory look at social media shows that some of these activists already have one high profile woman in Scotland in their sights. Experience shows that working class women will also be targeted.
There is no right not be offended but the muddled discourse about these issues currently in the public domain does not make that clear.- "Ministers under pressure to delay hate crime law start date", The National (16 March 2024)
- The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 came into force on 1 April 2024. The "high profile woman in Scotland" is unnamed in the source, but another article in The National (19 March 2024) quoted Edinburgh resident J.K. Rowling responding to a transgender critic: "If you genuinely imagine I'd delete posts calling a man a man, so as not to be prosecuted under this ludicrous law, stand by for the mother of all April Fools’ jokes."
- If Nicola Sturgeon had devoted half the energy that she devoted to calling lifelong feminists like me a transphobe and devoted half that energy to governing well then the SNP would not be facing a rout this evening.
- Speaking on ITV's election results programme, as cited in "Cherry blames Sturgeon as recriminations begin for SNP rout", The Herald (Glasgow, 5 July 2024)
- A political party that allows male members to harass and abuse female members, including elected parliamentarians, without any censure whatsoever is not progressive. Those who run the SNP and indeed the Scottish Greens, the Labour party and the Liberal Democrats need to understand that men who abuse women and threaten violence against them often act on those threats. The conviction of former SNP branch equalities officer Cameron Downing for serious sexual assaults has underlined this eternal truth. This man was feted by some within the SNP despite repeatedly threatening extreme violence to feminists. The deafening silence since his conviction is shameful.
- "Why I'm stepping back from frontline politics and ending my column", The National (Glasgow, 25 July 2024)
- Earlier in July in Edinburgh, Cameron Downing, convicted for sexual offences, was sentenced to six years imprisonment.
- I'm glad to hear that Mridul Wadhwa is no longer the CEO of Rape Crisis Edinburgh but the appalling culture over which this man who identifies as a woman presided goes much deeper. This should not be an end of the matter. Others need to consider their position.
- Post on X (not credited as such), as cited by Kirsteen Paterson in "Cross-party calls for action over Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre row", Holyrood (13 September 2024)
- Wadhwa, a transwoman without a Gender Recognition Certificate (and thus [legally male) was appointed CEO of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre in 2021. In September 2024, a report commissioned by Rape Crisis Scotland found Wadhwa had "failed to set professional standards of behaviour".
About Joanna Cherry
[edit]- Cherry has repeatedly expressed her conviction that independence can only succeed when its adherents address the aspirations and fears of Scotland’s pro-UK majority. What needs to be done to reassure those who voted No in 2014 – or a substantial number of them – that there is something in the independence offer for them, too?
- Tom Harris "Joanna Cherry is too good for the toxic SNP", The Telegraph (11 August 2023)