Talk:Cult
Add topicLatest comment: 10 years ago by Cirt in topic Moved quotes to talk page that don't mention "cult"
Moved quotes to talk page that don't mention "cult"
[edit]- Whenever there is an absolute truth at stake, the manners become careless. This applies both to the owners as well as their opponents of that truth and to all people involved.
- Dr. Paul Schnabel, Tussen stigma en charisma: nieuwe religieuze bewegingen en volksgezondheid (Between Stigma and Charisma: New Religious Movements and Mental Health) (1982), ISBN 90-6001-746-3 (Deventer, Van Loghum Slaterus), page 343 available on the internet
- It is both disquieting and even embarrassing that scholars supposedly studying the same phenomenona could have such strong differences of opinion.
- James T. Richardson, Ph.D., J.D., University of Nevada professor of sociology, "The Psychology of Induction: A Review and Interpretation"; Cults and New Religious Movements (1989), Marc Galanter, ed., American Psychiatric Association
- Who has or was given this authority to decide what beliefs or practices are orthodox or genuine, and what are unorthodox or spurious? In the realm of religion and belief, one person's or group's norm is another's anathema, and what is regarded as false or counterfeit by one person or group is regarded as genuine and authentic by another.
- Lloyd Eby, testimony before the Task Force to Investigate Cult Activity on the Campuses of Maryland Public Higher-Education Institutions, June 1999, [1]
- We often seem most comfortable with people whose religions consist of nothing but a few private sessions of worship and prayer, but who are too secularized to let their faiths influence the rest of the week. This attitude exerts pressure to treat religion as a hobby.
- Stephen Carter, The Culture of Disbelief: How American Law and Politics Trivialize Religious Devotion
- I have been a victim of it, despite my rigorous scientific and philosophical training and reams of critical writings. I have published about the methodological failings of various sciences and others systems of thought. So come on, you are not alone.
- Robert Priddy, ex-follower of Sathya Sai Baba
Moved these quotes to the talk page, they don't even mention "cult". -- Cirt (talk) 19:34, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree strongly. The quotes have been (carefully) selected and are fully on topic. Andries (talk) 11:07, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Which quote(s) in particular? Can we be more specific? I think it'd be best to discuss these above quotes, individually regarding inclusion. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 11:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I am sure about that all the quotes are on topic, except the one by Stephen Carter which I have to check. The one by Robert Priddy is only regarding Sathya Sai Baba, so that one can be omitted. I find am not really motivated to discuss the other ones, one by one. You can check them yourself with google or with the links provided. The one by Paul Schnabel is originally in Dutch. His whole book is online and google translate will show that the subject of his book is cults and nrms. Andries (talk) 15:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for the helpful explanation, I'll try to look them over soon and then add some back in. -- Cirt (talk) 16:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I checked the one by Stephen Carter and I do not think it is on topic. Andries (talk) 16:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. The others are not complete cites. -- Cirt (talk) 23:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- I checked the one by Stephen Carter and I do not think it is on topic. Andries (talk) 16:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for the helpful explanation, I'll try to look them over soon and then add some back in. -- Cirt (talk) 16:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I am sure about that all the quotes are on topic, except the one by Stephen Carter which I have to check. The one by Robert Priddy is only regarding Sathya Sai Baba, so that one can be omitted. I find am not really motivated to discuss the other ones, one by one. You can check them yourself with google or with the links provided. The one by Paul Schnabel is originally in Dutch. His whole book is online and google translate will show that the subject of his book is cults and nrms. Andries (talk) 15:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Which quote(s) in particular? Can we be more specific? I think it'd be best to discuss these above quotes, individually regarding inclusion. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 11:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I disagree strongly. The quotes have been (carefully) selected and are fully on topic. Andries (talk) 11:07, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Frieza-Force yes, i SUPPORT these edits (was just reading the article). Frieza-Force
- Update: I added back Paul Schnabel. The other cites lack enough information in the citations for verifiability, for example missing page numbers in cites, links that don't work, etc. -- Cirt (talk) 02:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)