Talk:G. I. Gurdjieff

Students

Can this section be changed to be more specific, as there is a big difference between who Ouspensky was to Gurdjieff, and what the rest of those figures are/were. Aeuio 20:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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• A ceremony is a book in which a great deal is written. Anyone who understands can read it. One rite often contains more than a hundred books.

• Beware of someone who wants to teach you something.

• If you help others, you will be helped, perhaps tomorrow, perhaps in one hundred years, but you will be helped. Nature must pay off the debt... It is a mathematical law and all life is mathematics.

• Patience is the mother of will.

• Self-observation brings man to the realization of the necessity of self-change. And in observing himself a man notices that self-observation itself brings about certain changes in his inner processes. He begins to understand that self-observation is an instrument of self-change, a means of awakening.

• Take the "wisdom" of the East and the '"energy" of the West and then seek.

• There are two struggles — inner-world struggle and outer-world struggle, but never can these two make contact, to make data for the third world. Not even God gives this possibility for contact between inner- and outer-world struggles; not even your heredity. Only one thing — you must make intentional contact between outer-world struggle and inner-world struggle; only then can you make data for the Third World of Man, sometimes called World of the Soul.

• Those who have not shown anything during their responsible life will have nothing to reap in the future.

Line in all caps removed & replaced with same quote

The following line with the first sentence in all caps was removed:

KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING ARE QUITE DIFFERENT. Only understanding can lead to being, whereas knowledge is but a passing presence in it."

& replaced with same quote - as it appears (not in caps) on p. 244 with a few more words to make the meaning easier for readers to understand:

• "Yes, Professor, knowledge and understanding are quite different. Only understanding can lead to being, whereas knowledge is but a passing presence in it. New knowledge displaces the old and the result is, as it were, a pouring from the empty into the void."
  

Trust that move is ok with all who may be concerned & if it isn't that you'll change it. Om777om (talk) 16:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)