Talk:James McNeill Whistler
"Art should be independent of all claptrap —should stand alone [...] and appeal to the artistic sense of eye or ear, without confounding this with emotions entirely foreign to it, as devotion, pity, love, patriotism and the like."
The exchange with Wilde isn't actually in the Ingleby book. It comes from a Monty Python sketch. 126.96.36.199 17:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
"The labour of two days is that for which you ask two hundred guineas?" was not spoken by John Ruskin. It was Attorney General Sir John Holker. Ruskin did not in fact attend the trial.
- I can't tell you if genius is hereditary, because heaven has granted me no offspring.
- If more than 5% of the people like a painting then burn it for it must be bad.
- Let me discourse, for if other people are going to talk, there can be no conversation.
- Quoted in Michael Oakeshott's "The Voice of Conversation in Education" (c 1948), published in What is History?: And Other Essays (2004), edited by Luke O'Sullivan (quote on p. 191). Very nearly quoted in this form in Norman Douglas' Siren Land (1911), Chapter XI: "On Leisure" (quote on p. 247). Some sources say that Whistler said this immediately after interrupting his mother.--Hughh (talk) 22:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- Sometimes quoted as "If other people are going to talk, conversation becomes impossible," or "... conversation becomes simply impossible."
- It takes a long time for a man to look like his portrait.
- It would have been called provincial and barbarous; it would have been cited as an incident of low civilization to confuse such art.
- Just as music is the poetry of the ear, so painting is that of the eye.
- Art should be independent of all claptrap — should stand alone [...] and appeal to the artistic sense of eye or ear, without confounding this with emotions entirely foreign to it, as devotion, pity, love, patriotism and the like.