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The imperialist ideology of force, from whatever side it comes, must be shattered for all time.
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Every morning
I shall concern myself anew about the boundary
Between the love-deed-Yes and the power-deed-No
And pressing forward honor reality.

We cannot avoid
Using power,
Cannot escape the compulsion
To afflict the world,
So let us, cautious in diction
And mighty in contradiction,
Love powerfully.

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All good men are Anarchists.

All cultured, kindly men; all gentlemen; all just men are Anarchists.
Jesus was an Anarchist.

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Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
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Matthew 10:16

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Once for all, then, a short precept is given thee:
Love, and do what thou wilt.

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Love works magic.
It is the final purpose
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As soon as men live entirely in accord with the law of love natural to their hearts and now revealed to them, which excludes all resistance by violence, and therefore hold aloof from all participation in violence — as soon as this happens, not only will hundreds be unable to enslave millions, but not even millions will be able to enslave a single individual.
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There is no greater mindlessness and absurdity than to force conscience and the spirit with external power, when only their creator has authority for them.
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Kids! Bringing about Armageddon can be dangerous. Do not attempt it in your own home.
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With this and other accounts I have made over 122,223 contributive edits, created well over 1001 pages and done substantial work on well over 1000 more, some of which are listed here. JUL Soul Iris.png
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This is the primary account of Kalki, who has also used many other account-names here, some since the very first days of this Wiki.

"If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it."
Foundational Principles against overly-controlling forces developing on the wikis.
Even if you have read them before, PLEASE EXAMINE ANEW: Wikipedia:Ignore all rules, and the other links available there, including the links delineating much which Wikipedia was NOT.
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I am one of the administrators here, which doesn't give me any special authority… only a bit more ability to keep others from misusing the privileges provided. I am in a period of very intermittent but gradually developing activity here, and follow no set schedule. ~ Kalki·· 03:22, 31 January 2015 (UTC)


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He hardly knows which is which.
He simply pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing.
To himself, he always appears to be doing both.
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I don't know about you but I take comfort in that.
It's good knowin' he's out there.
The Dude.
Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners.

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So they stop thinking.

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A fool such as I …[edit]

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Now and then there's a fool such as I am over you.
You taught me how to love
And now you say that we are through.
I'm a fool, but I'll love you dear
Until the day I die.
Now and then there's a fool such as I.

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I developed this layout for All Fool's Day … but liked it so much that I will probably use an adaptation of it more prominently in the future, and perhaps trim down some of the other quotes on this page. I'd had some elements of it in mind for quite some time, but they didn't all come together well until the last few minutes of work on it, before posting it — as is quite often the case. Kalki·· 23:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


Did you know Dryden translated the first book of the Iliad?[1]

(Pope mentions it in his Preface: "It is a great loss to the poetical world that Mr. Dryden did not live to translate the Iliad. He has left us only the first book, and a small part of the sixth... had he translated the whole work, I would no more have attempted Homer after him than Virgil: his version of whom (notwithstanding some human errors) is the most noble and spirited translation I know in any language.")

It is often said that the quarrel between Achilles and Agamemnon is mentioned in the proposition of the Iliad, but (unless I'm misreading something) that is not the case:

The wrath of Peleus' son, O Muse, resound / ... From that ill-omened hour when strife begun, / Betwixt Atrides great and Thetis' godlike son. (Dryden)
Achilles' wrath... / ... Since great Achilles and Atrides strove... (Pope)

Notice that it doesn't say Atrides's son (Agamemnon). Pope writes in his Preface that the main story of the Iliad is the "anger of Achilles". Apparently it never occurred to him that "anger" (first word of the poem) is not a very noble emotion for a hero, nor that it is completely inappropriate as the subject, argument, and action of an epic poem, which should be something commendable, virtuous and sublime. How can a passion such as "anger" (or "wrath") ever be worthy of the majesty of an epic?

Just some thoughts. I am actually very impressed by Dryden's version—having tried to translate the first few lines of the Iliad myself, I know how hard it is to make it sound poetic. But then, everything Dryden and Pope touched turned to gold. Cheers ~ DanielTom (talk) 17:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I was dead wrong, but I'll keep what I wrote above for reference. Atreus is the father of Agamemnon, but Atreides is in fact Agamemnon (Atreus's son). Not knowing this, I started writing the above post first as a question, but was then misled by a redirect from Atrides to Atreus on Wikipedia (which I now see leads to a section explaining the difference). So, writing "Atrides" or "Atreus' son" is actually equivalent. Okay, DanielTom (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I have scanned over your comments, but don’t have time for a full reply right now — I have been gone much of the day, and must again be leaving in a few minutes. I might indicate some thoughts on such matters as you have raised within a few days here, or I might not — I remain far too busy with too many things to make definite commitments about what I can do here and at various other places in coming days. I don’t expect to be gone long after I leave, but do need to rest for tomorrow, as I have had very little rest or sleep in the last couple of days, so I might not do much here for a day or two, even after I do return. ~ Kalki··
That's fine. I'll just mention that reading these names again suddenly reminded me that my own language (Portuguese) used to distinguish between the father's and the son's names in a similar way, in the old days, if I'm not mistaken—for example, Fernandes would also be the son of Fernando, etc. (but this might just be a coincidence). Okay, I shall bother you no more... Nice QOTD, above, btw. ~ DanielTom (talk) 01:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I remain somewhat rushed as there are MANY things I must apply myself to in my local terrestrial vicinity for most of the next week. I will note that your comments impelled me to think upon making more assertions on my own perspectives so as to clarify them for the sake of others. I was reserved, earlier about asserting to many of my own discernments at this time, but I was sorrowed by your confusing assertions indicating anger as something inately vile. An excess of it, and especially a misdirection of it at people, rather than some of their actions and will is certainly vile, but even a normally serene and intensely loving person can be very intensely angry at many forms of injustice — and yet never fall into the error of directing anger against the proper welfare of anyone or hating the individuals who are so ignorant and confused as to be committing or promoting such injustices.

Even the very great Christian saint, Augustine of Hippo wisely asserted:

Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.

It is always a tragedy to be ruled by anger, hatred and fear of many forms of vileness — or simply DIFFERENCE, rather than by acceptance, love and hope of greater good, and appreciation of great diversity.

Music and words that indicate very great levels of Awareness, Life and Love often inspire me, even when they are not always logically or rational explicable to very poorly informed or developed minds. Whenever the subject of anger comes up, I tend to think of one of my longtime favorite Kate Bush songs and videos : "Love and Anger (but in all honesty there are very few things by Kate which are NOT among my very favorite pieces of music). This was the first music and video I listened to this Easter morning (It is still Easter where I am located). I believe I did this just after sleeping soon after the dawn, but might have done before the dawn, while I was awake doing other things. Afterwards I listened to a relatively new member of my "favorite groups": Walk off the Earth, and their video of "Rule the World" which certainly is not intended for any claims of authoritarian command over others but a rather spirited defiance of such attitudes. There are indications of both anger and a firm and resolute transcendence of anger which I believe is evident in this piece of music and its video, and I am only now beginning to familiarize myself with more of their covers and original music in recent days. I probably will have a daily dose of that for at least the next week to help keep me inspired. I have a few other things to deal with here and elsewhere, so I am going to attend to some of these things now. I will probably attempt to elaborate on more of my ethical perspective soon, so that people can better understand my attitudes and why I sometimes have peculiar resolves I know that they cannot understand and usually don’t bother to try to explain (and when I do I often get accused of being too "verbose" in my efforts at being meticulously honest). So it goes... ~ Kalki·· 00:24, 6 April 2015 (UTC) + tweaks

Thanks for your thoughts. Still, the classics have always seen anger as a mad and hateful passion: Horace called it a brief furor; Cicero without ceremony called an angry man "a moron", and even Aristotle (as fanatic as he was for Homer) outlined this passion as an irrational and canine affection [J.A.M.]. It may be a mistake, though, to say that the Iliad is just about the anger of Achilles at Agamemnon: the true theme of the epic might be something more profound, viz. a reflection on the effects/consequences of anger, or: when (if ever) it is appropriate, even being angry, to take another's life. For example, when Patroclus kills Sarpedon, Hector becomes angry, and kills Patroclus, which in turn angers Achilles, who kills Hector. In the end, Homer might be trying to give the answer, that anger is never a justification to kill. Again, I may be mistaken about this. What I do know for sure is what music you should be listening to this evening: [2] – happy Easter. ~ DanielTom (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Again, as an absurdist I am VERY aware that the ways words CAN be used can be VERY different. When I refer to anger I refer to a valid emotional response in rejection of some forms of circumstances or will, and not to some contempt of other human beings and their capacities for various emotions and will which can be manifest in malice and will to do unjust or needless harm. Here I will note that though I can accept far broader ranges of definitions of some terms than many, I tend to restrict myself to accepting much narrower definitions of justice, and REJECT the notions of vengeance which are quite common or usual among many people, and tend to focus more on genuine rectification of unjust situations, to the extent possible, than mere retaliation against others for having had roles in creating these, especially when it clearly does not or cannot serve humanity generally to indulge in sometimes quite natural impulses to such. One can be quite fierce and angry in pursuing Justice, but those I would define as the wisest, strongest and best of people do not do needless harm, even to those extremely contemptible in their inclinations and aims. ~ Kalki·· 01:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I forgot to note I was listening to parts of your suggestion even as I typed — one of the favorite pieces of many people, and one I have often listened to. Though honestly I believe I have listened in recent years to renditions of Leonard Cohen's modern take on a "Hallelujah" theme a bit more. ~ Kalki·· 01:23, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
It's 3:30 a.m. here, and it's been a long day, but I forgot to add that if the interpretation of the Iliad that I suggested above is wrong, then according to its proposition the story really should have ended once Achilles and Agamemnon reconcile. The problem is, this doesn't happen. Instead, the poem goes on for countless other books, which are (at best) an addendum/appendix to the main story. These later books do nothing to advance the story the author proposed to sing so they don't actually belong in the poem. To me, although I admitedly may not even have a fraction of the wisdom of Homer (or whoever wrote his lines), his whole poem is a huge mess. Now, on the question of justice... it seems to me you are fundamentally mistaken about it. As you should know, Justice demands complete impartiality, which is why it should be administered solely by the state, and never by the victims—who although entitled to material, moral and historical restitution for their suffering, should never swing the sword of "justice" themselves—for, as you say, they would inevitably (mis)use it for vengeance—which alas often passed for "justice" in the dark and barbaric not-so-distant past. I have to wake up at 6 a.m. tomorrow (actually, today), so I'm now going to bed. 'Night. ~ DanielTom (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I accept that you must rest, and make a few notes for further reckonings whenever you encounter them. I acknowledge without resentment that variations of "the state" currently have a prominent role in administering many things, including notions of justice, and probably long will have, but Justice is a word, and like all words can be defined in various ways and have various associations to various people. I do NOT seek to idolize words as absolutely reliable means of conveying many notions I myself or of anyone else might develop, but accept and assert that they are INSTRUMENTS of INDICATION which can provide some means of partial or provisional understandings and agreements in regard to many things. WE personally seem to agree that vengeance and its pursuit is NOT innately just, but I know that there are many who would deny and reject such notions, and I can respect many of their emotions and even valid reasons for many of their feelings, even if I disagree with their assessments overall. I generally have avoided providing many direct indications of my opinions about many things here, because I know that they are extremely complex and often involve complex notions, ideas and associations most people are not very familiar with, as yet. I might deal with some of these more openly within a few months, to help clarify some of my own ideas to others. So it goes Blessings. ~ Kalki·· 02:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter, from Harvey and me![edit]

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I've been far too busy to do much here today, and must again be leaving, but am posting a picture of my favorite Easter egg and spoon. I should be back in time to do a bit more here before the day is over. So it goes Blessings. ~ Kalki·· 20:26, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter, Kalk! Not sure if you're religious or anything. But, anyway, hope you're doing well. Illegitimate Barrister 02:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I can and do appreciate and celebrate much of the beauty and wisdom inherent in many aspects of a wide variety of religious observances, but not necessarily with any acceptance or devotion to specific credal doctrines. I am very much aligned with many of the ideas of many Unitarian Universalists on such matters. ~ Kalki·· 03:12, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hello. My account was compromised during my absence. Can you indefinitely block my account globally to prevent damage to all sister wiki projects? Thanks for collaborating! --BScMScMD (talk) 04:37, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

As your account is a very new one, I am assuming this is some new form of trolling behavior, but do not have time to look into the matter thoroughly right now. I must be leaving soon and will be gone most of the day. ~ Kalki·· 08:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

read this[edit]

Humans are NOT dung beetles, and most of us, quite naturally, do not have any appetite for horseshit, and are not prone to accept people labelling it anything other than what it is.

please --Sigehelmus (talk) 05:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I could easily be quite facetious and say something like "OMG! You are one of the few who have uncovered the wordwide Zionist conspiracy at controlling the world!" Or I could be a bit more crude and say "OMFG — you are another one of those who eagerly seek out and eat up such masses of horseshit, and expect others to do the same."

I can actually respect your apparent sincerity and your humanity, and your capacity to be deluded, and thus can believe that you actually believe much of that crap is true which is merely wildly insane fantasy, and fail to realize that what apparent "facts" can be found to apparently support them are usually but meager and very carefully selected ranges of far broader ranges of facts and truth that provide far greater support to the repudiation of such nonsense.

I can accept that when people have been fed so much racist, partisan and ethnocentric horseshit that they actually learn to like it and think of it as "great nutrition" they are generally more to be pitied than blamed for many of their forms of stupidities, no matter how disgusting and appalling they may seem to most. But when their obsession for it is such that they insist on feeding it to others as nutritious food, human beings of greater intellectual and moral integrity should insist Humans are NOT dung beetles, and most of us, quite naturally, do not have any appetite for horseshit, and are not prone to accept people labelling it anything other than what it is.

I actually have very little time to spend here, and must leave soon, and will be gone much of the day, and a quick scan of your link and your edits leaves me with sufficient impressions of your agenda to assert that continued insertion of extremist "conspiracy theories" to justify their advocacy of extremism, and removal of criticism of various forms of fascism and fascist disinformation will likely result in blocks from editing here. ~ Kalki·· 08:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Please show me some hard counterevidence or don't even bother ranting, for you fall on deaf ears. You keep mentioning how yo uhave "little time" yet you continue ranting and raving your New Age pseudo-intellectual garbage, and attempt (and fail miserably) to subtly hide your pent-up frustration at yourself and the truth. EDIT: Oh, and little notice; if you think these articles actually change anyone's worldview in anyone's search for truth, you're terribly wrong and at the most deluding schoolchildren. Are you proud of that? You do know there's a reason professors tell their children not to rely on Wikipedia right? It's because of biased, paranoid, deluded zombies like you. --Sigehelmus (talk) 20:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Before I actually began dozing off, while responding to many of your ridiculous and contemptible assertions, truly tired from my activities elsewhere today, you truly made me laugh out loud at the profound levels of ignorance, arrogance and asinine stupidity you presented.

I very have little doubt that rational assessments will fall on deaf ears — as that happens all the time, even with people who plainly have far more rational integrity than you remotely have begun to exhibit. To insist I present on "hard counter-evidence" on what is actually an incoherent mass of claims of about worldwide zionist control is a task I will decline to bother with, which I am sure you and others might wish to assert is "proof" of their validity, but actually life is far too short to spend time attempting to address many of the levels of ridiculous stupidity in every lunatic delusion one encounters.

To quite bluntly and simply call such extremely asinine nonsense such as you have linked to a mass of "horseshit" is hardly "ranting". I will confess that my metaphoric allusions to the nonsense you are promoting as horse excrement, is actually a callous insult to that substance, which at least fertilizes soil, whereas the nonsense you seem addicted to believing and peddling to the extent you can is the the sort of foulness which actually poisons many minds which remain ignorant and confused, and in itself serves to fertilize none with any observations of great merit.

Psychological projection onto me and others who clearly don’t accept your apparently racist forms of fascism, of your perception of us all as "biased, paranoid, deluded zombies" is quite revealing observation, of what are clearly prominent tendencies in your own character. And with that observation I will end for now, because I actually do have to go somewhere for a while again, and already am quite sleepy, and definitely I have to sleep when I return in anticipation of another active day tomorrow. ~ Kalki·· 02:11, 9 April 2015 (UTC) + tweaks

What you have again just ranted can be accurately strawmanned as a gallant "NO YOU'RE WRONG I'M RIGHT YOU'RE JUST PROJECTING YOU'RE THE ZOMBIE", and then proceeded to add the accursed label of "racist" on top of that. I do not believe other races are superior to others, they all have their own niches that adapted to their environments. For someone with a crucifix placed firmly upon their signature, it is quite hypocritical that it is you who has resorted to anger, prejudice, contempt, astroturfing, and damage control. Although you have rebutted in total enough pedantry to fill several Gospels, you have not made any reasonable attempt to deny any evidence I have presented, most likely because of your own cognitive dissonance (and I hypothesize you suffer greatly from said dissonance as well as a mental disorder such as BPD based on your irrational and unnerving behavior which I would only typically see in eccentrics, and you yourself admitted before your views came firmly planted "from youth"). In short, you are insane and you are trying to play policeman/Messiah and spread your hyper-egalitarian radical worldview "subtly" by emphasizing and limelighting those quotes which satisfy YOUR worldview, and dismiss ANY dissent as the pejorative label of your choice. As the average person would say, "you're bloody crazy dude".--Sigehelmus (talk) 04:07, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations. That was definitely the most incoherent and irrelevant tirade of quite ignorant nonsense thrown out scattershot which I have encountered in a long time — though I have little doubt that there might well be an abundance of such rants in the forums you and your fellow "racialist" fascists frequent. It definitely made me laugh, for reasons I will probably make more apparent in coming weeks, at my own pace, and at points of my own choosing. I definitely do NOT have time to attempt such today, and will not likely attempt to do so in a single day, when I do get around to doing so. I am currently in a period where I am so busy with so many things that I have very limited time to spend at home, or even at one place, very long. At this point I will simply state that you truly fail to realize how infantile and transparent much of the nature of your own ranting seems to someone of far more intelligence and knowledge than the ignorant and confused people you might normally encounter in making your assertions. I have been aware of many of the processes of psychological projection from a very young age, and I actually make NO denial that I too make projections of various sorts — most people DO, but the character of WHAT they project varies greatly and the kindest and humblest of people tend to project hopes or potentials of kindness in others, even the most ignorant and confused and vile, while the most ignorant confused and vile tend to project the most abhorrent of characterizations they can upon others, so as to apparently justify, excuse or even sanctify their hatreds, indifference or desires to suppress and oppress various individuals or groups in unjust ways.

You clearly seem to have very little awareness of my actual opinions on many matters, even some of those I have very openly stated here in the past, despite your apparent confidence in your VERY INCORRECT assessments of what you apparently believe or wish others to believe them to be. I admire and respect the wise individuals of MANY diverse faiths, of which Jesus was certainly among the most noted and notable, but I also count many absurdist writers and philosophers among the foremost of the wise and admirable. You seem to be quite stupidly convinced that I accept or insist upon acceptance or promotion of some form of official Christian doctrines as if acceptance of some credal statements were necessary for ethical or spiritual salvation. I have never been someone so idolizing of words as many people of many faiths are, and declarations of doctrines of dogma are not something I focus so much attention upon as their clear dispositions and deeds — whatever words or declarations they might choose to embrace or reject. Humility, Courage, Honesty and Compassion are virtues I recognize and revere, and those lacking in any of these lack a great deal of integrity in regards to all of them, for they are all ultimately bound to each other in many ways.

Despite your clear lack of genuine lucidity, coherence and actual knowledge of many matters which you might sometimes seem to speak with immense confidence about, you definitely at times have a bit more sophisticated cleverness in your hypocritical rantings than most advocates of "racialist" fascism of various sorts, which could easily convince many of the ignorant and confused that you might actually have some valid points, even in making some of the most glaring and obvious errors which are apparent to anyone well informed about them. I type with some weariness, and again plan to make at least one more excursion today, despite my weariness. I actually have had far more limited time to spend here in recent days, and expect that circumstance to continue for at least a couple more — but some of your most laughably obtuse accusations and assessments will eventually be more thoroughly addressed when I do get the time, perhaps, this weekend (when I am expecting, but not certain of having a bit more time than I have had in recent days to even check in on my computer, let alone deal with many things at various places on the internet, including this one). Until then I will state I harbor no malice towards people who disagree with me on many issues, though I make no pretense of admiring or agreeing with many of their opinions. So it goes. ~ Kalki·· 00:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC) + tweaks


WikiLubber keeps reverting my edits on American Dad when I'm splitting the page up into different seasons —This unsigned comment is by (talkcontribs) .

1. You forgot to sign. 2. We don't need individual season articles for every show. We have shows like Law & Order (and all its spinoffs), Full House, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, to name but a few, and they don't have, nor do they even need, individual season articles. WikiLubber (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
I just arrived home a few minutes ago and must do a few things here and leave again. I personally prefer to keep shows on one page, where practical, but can concede that a show with 11 seasons is eligible to be broken up into smaller pages. I don't know what most editors of that page would prefer, but perhaps enquiries and discussion should begin on the article's talk page, to see what followers of the program wish. That's about all I have time to state now, as I have much to attend to elsewhere soon, but have a few things to catch up on here, before leaving. ~ Kalki·· 21:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Other examples of non-split pages: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Shining Time Station, The Golden Girls, Friends, Cheers and many more. Splitting pages into separate seasons is completely unnecessary. WikiLubber (talk) 13:23, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
As I had stated, I often prefer one page where it is practical, but it is not always convenient for many, and many people have preferred to break up such pages for shows into seasons with far less than 11, as exist for American Dad!. It is certainly not extraordinary to break up such a large page into separate seasons, and I believe this anon IP editor has made good-faith efforts to to provide full listing and access to all episodes from the primary page, in the edits which have recently developed. Thus I am presently tending to favor the anon's efforts, barring any clear reason to reject them by the majority of people concerned with the page. I believe a discussion of some aesthetic tweaks or options might be appropriate, but not an outright rejection of the efforts thus far made for a break-out into separate pages. I once again must be leaving soon, but I believe if the dispute continues, the matter should probably be decided by a request for commentary, on the talk page, perhaps with a notice to that page at the village pump. ~ Kalki·· 00:49, 17 April 2015 (UTC) + tweaks


See here. Should we "bold" quotes in other languages (e.g. in Latin)? I'm interested in your opinion. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:00, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree that bolding should not generally be used on foreign text. ~ Kalki·· 22:38, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Pitch Black (film)[edit]

You've helped do this in the past.  Hopefully, you can do it again.  Cheers, allixpeeke (talk) 07:19, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

This has now been done. ~ Kalki·· 14:41, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Cool, thanks!  allixpeeke (talk) 04:06, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Quote of the day/February 20, 2013[edit]

I started a new page called supernatural.  If you know of the source of the Matheson quote, it would make a fitting addition to the supernatural page.  :)  Cheers, allixpeeke (talk) 10:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for creating that page. I placed quote on the page, after I removed the dead link to the original interview (which I believe I had read while it was active), and replaced it with a more recent link at NPR which references it. The quote is one I found notable as reflecting my own avoidance of the word since about 5 or 6 years of age, when I began to make explorations of the relatively limited and often very skewed and constrained vocabularies of others. There is much more I was prompted to indicate, but I really have very limited time right now, and must be leaving soon. In the past couple weeks I have been far more active elsewhere, on a regular basis, and by mutual agreements with others this is likely to continue for at least another month or two. I do expect to have more time to spend here eventually, but for at least another week or two, it is likely I will often have only a few minutes a day when I can spare the time to check in here. So it goes Blessings. ~ Kalki·· 11:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC) + tweaks


You're the expert. Is there a way to add wikilinks automatically (say, selecting the word and pressing some button under Advanced which I can't find), or do you have to do it manually [[ ]] one by one? ~ DanielTom (talk) 09:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I still do it manually one by one, and know of no other way to do it. ~ Kalki·· 09:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Editing tip – There are two tools for this, an old tried-and-true way, and a newfangled one.
  1. The original tool for this is in the box at the bottom of the edit screen, on the line headed "Wiki markup". Select some text in the edit box or the summary box and click the "[[]]" button. This will place double brackets around the selected text.

    Caveats: (1) If you need to scroll the screen to reach the button, make sure the original text is still selected, as some mouse actions will cancel the selection. (2) If no text is selected then empty brackets are inserted, leaving the cursor between them. (3) If neither the edit box nor the summary box are currently active then the button does nothing.

  2. The newer tool (supposed to be more intuitively user friendly) is in the tool bar along the top of the edit box. Select some text in the edit box and click the icon that looks sort of like three links in a chain, then in the dialogue box that appears click the "Insert link" button to accept default settings.

    Caveats: (1) This does not work in the summary box. (2) I don't use it because it takes an extra mouse click, so I don't know what quirks or "gotchas" it may have. (Personally, I don't use any part of the new tool bar for anything.)

The foregoing tools may not be available, or may be different, if you are using one of the nonstandard "skins" or the "Visual Editor" beta. Happy editing! ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks Kalki and Ningauble. ~ DanielTom (talk) 15:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I tried moving Beavis and Butt-Head to Beavis and Butt-head but…[edit]

Thanks again, in advance.  : )   allixpeeke (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svgY Done ~ UDScott (talk) 01:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Excellent.  Thanks.  allixpeeke (talk) 04:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

John Nash[edit]

has just passed a way. The best quote I can think of to honor him is from A Beautiful Mind (film):

"My quest has taken me to the physical, the metaphysical, the delusional, and back. I have made the most important discovery of my career – the most important discovery of my life. It is only in the mysterious equations of love that any logic or reasons can be found."

Maybe you could use it in your next QOTD? ~ DanielTom (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I had just thought of Nash at some length within the last couple of days, for peculiar reasons, and am saddened by the news of his death. The line you suggest seems acceptable, with corrections and extensions to read:

I've always believed in numbers. In the equations and logics that lead to reason.But after a lifetime of such pursuits, I ask, what truly is logic? Who decides reason? My quest has taken me through the physical, the metaphysical, the delusional, and back — and I have made the most important discovery of my career – the most important discovery of my life. It is only in the mysterious equations of love that any logic or reasons can be found.

I will state the suggestion as yours in posting it to the suggestion page, and working on a layout. ~ Kalki·· 23:53, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I was at a high school "Japanese" party (Haruhi club) last week, to which I was invited to teach Go, and in my presentation I showed them A Beautiful Mind [3] and talked a bit about John Nash (and mentioned that I thought he was still alive). If I remember correctly, the first time I actually studied game theory was in a class called "Economics and Industrial Organization" (in my second year of college, and others), where the Nash equilibrium is one of the first things we are taught (it's easy). The QOTD you've just created looks great to me. Thanks for your work. ~ DanielTom (talk) 08:14, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I tried moving Life of Brian to Monty Python's Life of Brian but…[edit]

Thanks again, in advance.  : )   allixpeeke (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

I just happened to check in just after you posted this — and it is now done. I have to be leaving again soon, but might try to do a slight bit of work here later, before I do — within the next hour or so. I have to be attending to other matters right now. ~ Kalki·· 11:55, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Gracias.  allixpeeke (talk) 00:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Links for another…[edit]

I was a bit delayed in doing things here, but here are a few links to some of the things we touched upon in conversation earlier today:

Kate Bush
Walk off the Earth
St. Vincent
Simone Weil
Albert Camus
Robert Anton Wilson
Wilhelm Reich
James Branch Cabell
Neil Gaiman
Books of Magic
Unitarian Universalism
Joss Whedon
Giordano Bruno
Baruch Spinoza
Edwin Abbott Abbott
Edward Abbey

There are a few other things I might add later — but I must be leaving now. I hope you find Wikiquote an interesting place for explorations. ~ Kalki·· 00:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC) + tweaks

PG artwork[edit]

I personally have no qualms with nudity in art, (I actually am slightly favorable towards it, as artistic expression), but I think people who come to the sight may be put-off if the first thing they see is "tits and dicks". Abattoir666 (talk) 23:37, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Block 70Jack90[edit]

Would you do us all a favor and please block 70Jack90 for its false allegation against me?

Furthermore, it has been undoing all my highly-justified edits and constantly failed to comply with Wikiquote's limitations on quotes.
And now it has become the real sockpuppet, as its other account: 90Jack70, has proven. WikiLubber (talk) 00:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
And I request that all its false threats on its edit summaries (including that of its sockpuppet account) be removed immediately. WikiLubber (talk) 00:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)