Talk:Pope Francis
Add topicLatest comment: 11 years ago by Daniel Tomé
Someone added the following quote:
- The Christian sees the Church as the Body of Christ, as the vessel that guards with absolute integrity the deposit of faith, as the faithful Spouse who communicates without addition or subtraction all that Christ entrusted ... The Church as a fully “sanctified” reality and capable of receiving and of communicating – without error or defect, from its own poverty and even with its own sins –the full sanctity of God, is not a “complement” or an “institutional addition” to Jesus Christ, but a full participation of his Incarnation, of His Life, of His Passion, death and Resurrection.... In defending its purity, its indefectibility, its sanctity as the bride, the Church is defending the “place” through which the gift of the life of God passes on to the world and the gift of the life of the world to God. This gift – the fullest expression of which is the Eucharist –is not another gift among ourselves but the supreme gift of the most intimate life of the Trinity that poured forth for the life of the world and the life of the world assumed by the Son that is offered to the Father.
I read the original in Spanish, and found that this is actually a combination of several quotes taken from the same speech, but out of order, and placed together here. In addition, the above passage sounds like a speech that any priest could make during an ordinary mass, so it is not an important quote, in my opinion, which leads me to think that we should delete it (it is not peculiar to Bergoglio, and it is not really quotable). Any objections? ~ Daniel Tomé (talk) 23:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel, I had my doubts as well so I checked the source arzbaires.org.ar, which seems to be the "Official site of the Archbishop of Buenos Aires". This seems to be a reliable source, so I would leave it for now. -- Mdd (talk) 23:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I know it's a reliable source, I just worry about the content. ~ Daniel Tomé (talk) 23:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- I just added the original in Spanish; the translation is fine. It doesn't bother me to keep it... ~ Daniel Tomé (talk) 23:59, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's fine, because it was clearly an important occasion. Good initiative by the way, this article. -- Mdd (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! ~ Daniel Tomé (talk) 00:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's fine, because it was clearly an important occasion. Good initiative by the way, this article. -- Mdd (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel, I had my doubts as well so I checked the source arzbaires.org.ar, which seems to be the "Official site of the Archbishop of Buenos Aires". This seems to be a reliable source, so I would leave it for now. -- Mdd (talk) 23:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)