Talk:Scott Adams

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Some of these quotes come from other sources, such as the "high explosive" one, which comes from a 1980s action movie. As soon as I can remember it, I'll move it there. GABaker

Thank you for the quotes from "Dilbert". I have moved the "Dilbert" page to the title "Scott Adams", where a heading can exist for quotes from the Dilbert series of comics. In the future, please don't place any quotes into inappropriate categories, but rather wait until you have a good idea where they actually do belong. I will edit out the one you mentioned, and any other that seem unlikely to be from "Dilbert". ~ Kalki 17:23, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

I had a bumper sticker with "My reality check bounced" during the 1960s. The pigeon-statue quote is also from (at least) earlier than 1970. Michael K. Smith 19:21, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

These are the quotes that were pasted as "Attributed" to Adams [most of these very likely originated elsewhere] :

  • Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.
  • Am I getting smart with you? How would you know?
  • Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, 'cuz, like, you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
  • Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
  • Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer.
  • I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either.
  • I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
  • I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.
  • I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode.
  • Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "Where the heck is the ceiling?!"
  • My Reality Check bounced.
  • Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't there the first time you need him, chances are you won't be needing him again.
  • On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key.
  • Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car.
  • Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.
  • You're slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter.
  • The creator of the universe works in mysterious ways— but he uses base ten and he likes round numbers.

Added quotes from http://homepage.eircom.net/~odyssey/Quotes/Popular/Comics/Dilbert.html[edit]

I added some of the quotes from http://homepage.eircom.net/~odyssey/Quotes/Popular/Comics/Dilbert.html . I'll probably do some more later but it would be helpful if someone else added some. And, correct me if I'm wrong, I wouldn't think this would be plagarism because the quotes were not originally from this site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dimensiondude (talkcontribs) 21:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

It may very well be copyright violation, either of the original work (content) or of the presentation (proximate source). Copying and pasting the entire contents of another webpage is pretty much always a bad idea. A few excepts can be acceptable, but any substantial additions should include significant work to establish Wikiquote's own scholarship on a subject. This is best done by properly sourcing the material with publication titles and dates. But this still doesn't relieve us of the need to stick to "fair-use" practices and avoid copyright violations. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Confusion[edit]

This has got to be the most confusing quotes page, I tried fixing it before realising what the structure was. I will attempt to fix this, but I don't know what I'll use for names. 207.179.172.220 15:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC) To make my previous edit a suggestion, the following should be done to clear the Dogbert list up: us the < br > function when two people are talking, instead of having 3 dotted quotes, and then an indented one partially explaining what's going on.207.179.172.220 15:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I see several larger problems with this article:
  • It is not divided into Sourced and Unsourced sections. "Sourced" quotes are verifiable by checking their sources, and therefore tend to be accurate. "Unsourced" quotes cannot easily be verified, and are therefore not much better than rumor. Please note that sources should be specific enough to be reasonably checked by readers. A book title isn't adequate; it should include a page number and an ISBN. A comic strip isn't adequate; it must include a print publication that featured it, specifying the date as well. (As most newspapers have only a few pages of comics, a page number probably isn't necessary.) Furthermore, proper sources must be reliable, by Wikimedia standards. Virtually no fan or quote websites meet this qualification. An official Scott Adams or Dilbert site probably would, as would any authorized Dilbert publication.
  • Many of the quotes seem to be under incorrect headings. (I found no record of a book titled Daily Dilbert; I assume someone stuck a comic-strip quote into the book section.)
  • Some of the material from the newsletters strikes me a substantial enough to suggest copyright infringement. It should probably be trimmed to essentials and/or the pithiest quotes.
After all this is resolved, the harder question of how to format some of these quotes should also be addressed. I don't think we have any formal policy on comic strip quotes. Viable organizations include:
  1. The current grouping by publication (once it's unmixed).
  2. For individual quotes from a frequently quoted person, a subheading for that person can group all their quotes together. Each quote would have a source line specifying the work and page number or date.
  3. For a general collection of individual quotes, there seem to be 2 common formats:
    • I am using the first quote format. ~ Quotee 1
      • My Book Title, p. 7
    • But I like the second style better.
      • Quotee 2; Other Book, p. 37
    I don't think our policy is clear on this, and I don't feel competent at the moment to suggest which is "better".
  4. Dialog typically uses TV-show and film-style formatting, like so:
    Moe: Going…
    Larry: Going…
    Curly: Gone.
    This is reasonable for TV shows and films, whose gain their "sourcing" from being grouped by episode (for TV) and being ordered chronologically (for both). Since the colon-based indent format doesn't play nice with source lines using regular wiki markup, a variation using bullets and HTML break tags has been used (edit to examine markup):
    • Moe: Going…
      Larry: Going…
      Curly: Gone.
      • The Three Stooges, "Auction Stooge" [3.05]
    (I just made up the quote and episode info up.) It's ugly in the edit window, but it gets the job done.
Not only is having four (or actually five) different formats confusing, it looks odd when combined. The usual result is that an article follows the formatting preferred by its most active editors (within policy). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comic strip quotes moved to Dilbert[edit]

I've split out the quotes from the comic strip (and reformatted them as well) and put them over at the Dilbert page. The strip is big enough to warrant its own page, especially considering that there's enough non-Dilbert content from Adams that his page won't be empty without the Dilbert quotes. —LrdChaos 15:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, you just did what I was gonna do, and in probalby half the time too ;p 207.179.172.220 16:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced[edit]

  • So, I heard the Fed increased the money supply, but I checked my bank balance and it's the same as before.
    • Dogbert's world of amazingly ignorant people.
  • Highly intelligent and well-informed people disagree on every political issue. Therefore, intelligence and knowledge are useless for making decisions, because if any of that stuff helped, then all the smart people would have the same opinions. So use your "gut instinct" to make voting choices. That is exactly like being clueless, but with the added advantage that you'll feel as if your random vote preserved democracy.
    • Response to an "Ask Dogbert" letter
  • Creativity is allowing oneself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep.

Lots of Dead links[edit]

Lots of links in the section https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Scott_Adams#Restaurant_menus of this article are pointing to a unexisting page - Can some one help ?