Wikiquote talk:Marking problematic pages

Re: Lexx cleanup tag

The following discussion has been copied, by me, from User talk:Jeffq, because it seemed to be relevant to the standards of marking problmatic pages. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm not clear on why you added the cleanup tag to Lexx. The article is certainly in need of quotes from other characters, and could use some dialog, which is why I added the stub tag, but these are not formatting issues. Could you post a note on its talk page to explain? Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:41, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your question! I added a note to the talk page. Please remove the cleanup tag if you disagree with my reasoning there. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 04:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if you noticed, but I actually put some work into something like that: Wikiquote:Guide to layout/Draft. Any thoughts and comments you have on this guide would be useful. Once I move it out of draft, I intend to link all cleanup templates to this guide (possibly to sections, I'm not sure) -- the guide was originally written because many people asked me "why did you add cleanup tag?". Thanks for your help and care ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I admit I'm behind on studying and commenting on all the new activity that folks (mainly you!) have been working on. The draft WQ:GtL looks like a succinct summary of the main points of the different formats, which is an excellent idea. However, I believe it's generally good wiki practice to post a specific reason for adding a cleanup tag, especially if it's not obvious. (But what is "obvious", you ask? Good question.) I've certainly been known to tag some articles without explanation, though I try to do that only when the format or content is so bad that even a wiki novice could understand the concern (if not necessarily the solution). On the other hand, I understand how much time a large-scale cleanup-tagging effort takes, and just getting the tags on the articles raises their visibility for attention. I'm just a bit concerned about pointing folks to a concentrated summary without specific citations of problems. I guess it's just my ongoing concern about the tension between encouraging new users and requiring reasonable formatting, which for Wikiquote can be quite cumbersome. (Even an old hand like myself was initially confused about which ones of the several dozen TV-show structure elements was not being followed in a TV stub.) Oh, well. Don't stop your tremendous efforts on my account! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:36, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

You're probably right that cleanup tags should have reasons. I will try to be more careful about writing summary of issues in the future, at any rate. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)