Talk:Mein Kampf

Dropped quotes

Why were several quotes dropped during the re-ordering of the quotes? I'm specifically talking about:

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.

I didn't want to revert all the changes, but could the person who revised it re-add the missing quotes or explain why they were removed? --Spatz 18:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That quote in particular is apparently from the Ralph Manheim translation (ISBN 0395078016). Page 403 of the 1943 version. What I would like, is for someone to go to a library and make a photocopy/scan of that page, so we finally have proof that it's really in there. And to check out which chapter it's in, so we can add it to the Mein Kampf article. --82.171.70.54 22:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

You can search the Ralph Manheim translation on Google Books and the quote doesn't appear to be there (or in any edition): see here. This doesn't appear to be a real quote. Morish 14:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Update: logicalriot on reddit pointed me to this post which shows that it's actually a manufactured quote derived from a passage in a fictional letter written by Rabbi Daniel Lapin in 2004. So it's fake; end of story. Morish 17:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

• I was suspicious it might be a fake quote too, that's why I came to check it out. If it does turn out to be in there then someone can come forward with it. It is possible that not all content shows up on Google Books right? Unless it's all accessible (is it public domain?) When I checked SydWalker's site, he writes in his blog that while he did not say the quote above, he said an abbreviated version: "At least, he DID write in Mein Kampf (English Translation): “The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people.”" I am not sure even that is accurate though. I was reading the Gutenberg text here yet no segments of either of these quotes show up. The eleven times "the children" shows up in this translation he's not at all addressing topics like this. Tyciol 09:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Rather than search for "the children", a search for "child" reveals this quote in Project Gutenburg's translation.."It must proclaim the truth that the child is the most valuable possession a people can have." - Cate, 11 August, 2010

Marriage

A V.I / Ch.10 quote on early marriage is included, but

Marriage is not an end in itself but must serve the greater end, which is that of increasing and maintaining the human species and the race. This is its only meaning and purpose.

is omitted, despite its relevance to modern debates on the definition and purpose of marriage. -- 58.147.52.42 04:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Verification of quote

Can anyone verify if the following quote in the 'not yet placed by chapter' category is even in Mein Kampf:

We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.

I checked the Project Gutenberg link and haven't been able to find it. Wikiquote's article on Adolf Hitler has him saying it in a speech in 1933. Other sources seem to cite the speech for the quote as well. --Night Jaguar 04:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

The quote is here (in German) date 1934. "Wir haben daher den Kampf gegen die Gottlosenbewegung nicht mit ein paar theoretischen Erklarungen aufgenommen, wir haben sie ausgerottet." *As a note, he literally says "godless movement" ("Gottlosenbewegung") which had a different, more political connotation than words like "atheist", e.g., atheistischen Organisationen; it is similiar to cold war usage of "Godless" in the US, but to a greater degree. --Downthatroad 00:11, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Goddess quote

I removed the following quote, because I couldn't find a matching version in Murphy.

While the Goddess of suffering took me in her arms often threatening to crush me... my will to resistance grew and in the end that will was victorious.

I'm putting it here in case someone can find it. JesseW 07:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)