Talk:Hillary Clinton

Where'd "It Takes A Village" come from?

I've always, well not ALWAYS literally of course, but until today I've assumed that the phrase "it takes a village to raise a child" was first uttered, at least in western society, by Hillary Rodham Clinton. So I was mildly dismayed to find when I was researching for this other wikiquote page that the phrase wasn't mentioned here in the Hillary Clinton wikiquote article as having been directly sourced to her, but only attributed in a way that insinuated she said it arbitrarily -- as if she were sourcing something else. So I researched further and discovered the term's actually assumed in some circles to be an African proverb. I think. I can't actually get a reliable source on that but that's where my limited research capabilities direct me. However, here in wikiquote, the phrase isn't even referenced over there. So I guess my question here is, does anyone know if Clinton was the first to mention it in western civilization, or did she get it from oh I don't know Aldous Huxley or Arianna Huffington or somebody..? And would it be appropriate to put the phrase here or there or anywhere, frankly? I'll keep researching it but I can't determine if anyone knows, really. I'm not even sure if Clinton herself knows where she first heard it. If she thinks she made it up herself is that sufficient, or..? Oh I don't know. ZachsMind 15:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I am fairly confident that the expression was known in the USA before she said it. It is said to be an African proverb. Steve Dufour 22:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

When did she first use the term? The movie "Bye Bye Love", which was released in 1995 (before her book of that title) clearly uses it when the radio shrink (played by Rob Reiner) is doing his program. He refers to it as an African proverb and first states it in an African language, then in English. It was not new to me when I heard it in the movie, but I don't know when I first watched the movie. In what appears to be the introduction to the book (see http://www.happinessonline.org/LoveAndHelpChildren/p12.htm) Clinton says, "I chose that old African proverb to title my book". I don't have any cites, but I think I'd heard it in child-rearing contexts ten or fifteen years before her book came out. (My daughter was born in 1978, which should give you some idea of the time frame for my primary attention to such things.)

Bolding of some quotes

Is there any reason why certain quotes are in a bold type face? 128.239.147.115 23:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)albwus

Clearly, this is an expression of the editors' own opinions. I will change it. Steve Dufour 22:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced quotes removed

Wikipedia policy says that unsourced material about a living person that could be harmful should be removed from an article, and I am guessing that Wikiquote has the same kind of policy. It seems to me that since she is running for office any of these unsourced quotes could be harmful to her since some people might disagree with them or use them in the wrong way. I hope that nobody will object if I remove them. Thanks. I just did the same for Barack Obama's page, so I am not taking sides. Steve Dufour 22:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

So Hillary Roddom Clinton takes over for Bill Clinton? --Cosby 17:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Sourced Quotes

The sourced quotes in the pre-presidential section are just rumors pedaled from hatchet-job books written in the 90's. They have no place here and do not accurately reflect Hillary Clinton, as they are not even accurately sourced in the books where they originate. Just tabloid trash.

It seems the last two External Links are just more of the tabloid trash. I don't think they belong there if the quotes themselves didn't belong on the page. I'm going to pull them. If a link to this material really is needed, I would recommend the Scopes page that dissects this collection instead.

Unsourced quotes about Hillary Clinton

• Hillary Clinton, our junior senator from New York , announced that she has no intentions of ever, ever running for office of the President of the United States. Her husband, Bill Clinton, is bitterly disappointed. He is crushed. There go his dreams of becoming a two-impeachment family.
  • David Letterman

Attributed

Not-so-credible right-wing websites (The Gateway Pundit and others) are attributing the following quote to Hillary Clinton:

• Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half a chance (Jews*, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances.

but... was it written by Hillary? Their source, "The Podesta Emails" revealed by the (highly credible) WikiLeaks, doesn't say, as far as I can see, that she is the author of the email. ~ DanielTom (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Mexicans

Is it possible to get this page locked?

I’ve just noticed that — in one section — Mrs Clinton seems to support building a wall on the border between the USA and Mexico.

Given the US election is in something of a crucial stage, I think that locking the page down — before either side in the election can do some malicious editing — would be a wise idea.

Cuddy2977 (talk) 16:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

It’s in the section about her senatorial career.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton#Senate_years_.282001_.E2.80.93_January_19.2C_2007.29

"You need both a public and a private position"

HRC gets a lot of criticism because of that quote, isn't it worth mentioning? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/11/why-hillary-clintons-abraham-lincoln-defense-of-her-leaked-wall-street-comments-falls-flat Ain92 (talk) 19:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat"

Oh God.

That quote is already listed.

In 2000, the United Nations Security Council arrived at a similar conclusion, stating that "civilians, particularly women and children, account for the vast majority of those adversely affected by armed conflict." ~ Robin Lionheart (talk) 23:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Removed quotes

• You cannot have maternal health without reproductive health. And reproductive health includes contraception and family planning and access to legal, safe abortion.[1]
• Women are the largest untapped reservoir of talent in the world.
• There are 4 billion cell phones in use today. Many of them are in the hands of market vendors, rickshaw drivers, and others who've historically lacked access to education and opportunity. Information networks have become a great leveler, and we should use them together to help lift people out of poverty and give them a freedom from want.

Two are unsourced and the one that has a source is from a quote agregator, which is not a RS. Rupert Loup 02:23, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

More unsourced quotes

The following quotes are not truly sourced - they come from quote aggregator pages, without original sources provided:

• "Fear is always with us, but we just don't have time for it. Not now."[2]
• "There is a sense that things, if you keep positive and optimistic about what can be done, do work out[3]
• "Do all the good you can, for all the people you can, in all the ways you can, as long as you can.[4]
• "To every little girl who dreams big: Yes, you can be anything you want — even president[5]
• "You have just one life to live. It is yours. Own it, claim it, live it, do the best you can with it.[6]
• Along the way, I’ve tried not to make the same mistake twice, to learn, to adapt, and to pray for the wisdom to make better choices in the future.”[7]
• “learn to take criticism seriously but not personally.[8]
• The coldest peace is better than the warmest war.”[9]
• “When you are in a common boat, cross the river peacefully together.”[10]
• “There’s a Girl Scouts song I learned in elementary school: “Make new friends, but keep the old. One is silver, and the other gold.”[11]
• “When your President asks you to serve, you should say yes.”[12]
• He reminded me to focus on the “trendlines,” not just the headlines, and to relish the experiences.”[13]
• “Afterward Joe Biden greeted me outside the green room, falling on bent knee to kiss my hand. (Who says chivalry is dead!)”[14]
• “Football coaches meet midfield after a game, but they don't always hug”[15]
• “There is an old Burmese proverb: “When it rains, collect water.”[16]
• “Make new friends, but keep the old. One is silver, and the other gold.”[17]
• “Let there be learning, even under the shade of trees.[18]
• “The more both sides follow the example of those intrepid early diplomats to bridge the gaps in understanding and interests, the better chance we will have of making progress.”[19]

UDScott (talk) 14:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)