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[edit]"To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough time." -- Anyone have a source for Bernstein saying this oft quoted "quote"? It's a great one; I really hope he did say it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.245.1.34 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- This source is attrubted to Bernstein in quite a lot of recent publications, but I cannot find sources older then 2008. Now I did find a similar quotes in older sources:
- A wise man once said that to do a great and important work, two things are necessary: a definite plan, and not quite enough time.
- R.C. Schafer (1977) The magic of self-actualization: the development of human potential from where you are to where you want to be. p.124
- A wise man once said that to do a great and important work, two things are necessary: a definite plan, and not quite enough time.
- And also funny:
- To improve libraries in Texas, only two things are needed: a plan for library development and public pressure.
- Texas Library Association (1965) "Report of the Library Development Committee — March 20, 1965" In: Texas library journal, Vol. 41-44; p.58
- To improve libraries in Texas, only two things are needed: a plan for library development and public pressure.
- Now a similar quote:
- To do a great and important work, two things are necessary — a definite plan, and not quite enough time. — Nuggets 1942
- Millard Dale Baughman (1958) Teacher's treasury of stories for every occasion. p.323
- To do a great and important work, two things are necessary — a definite plan, and not quite enough time. — Nuggets 1942
- For now, this doesn't help you. -- Mdd (talk) 01:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- What do you mean "doesn't help you"? --Spannerjam (talk) 20:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- It means that since the above quotes are not by Bernstein, they build a case against Bernstein coining the saying and do not offer any evidence he ever said such a thing. --BBUCommander (talk) 21:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Mdd, what is "Nuggets 1942"? That's the oldest source found so far. The Bernstein line is the Nuggets version with only a few words substituted. The Nuggets version appeared in several newspapers in the 1950s and 1960s. The oldest appearance I found was in the Oklahoma City Star, 23 October 1953, page 23. The Oklahoma City Star attributed the quote to Nuggets. Was Nuggets maybe a collections of short quotes to fill up extra space in newspapers? Does anyone know? Scenography (talk) 05:48, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- What do you mean "doesn't help you"? --Spannerjam (talk) 20:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Is your 2008 source "Composers on composing for band, Volume 4"? Dwmalone (talk)