Talk:Somnath temple

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False assertions[edit]

User:Jedi3 is asserting false reasons and is getting involved in edit war. However as I don't want to I have reverted myself for now [1]. The reasons given by him are fairly trivial. He claims quotes by fictional authors are important. How? He never explains.

He also keeps telling to shift it to Disputed or Misattributed (basically they are same as there is a dispute regarding about wrong attribution in all of them). However, those sections are only for quotes that actually are disputed or misattributed. See Wikipedia: Misattributed and Template:Remove. His quote is not disputed or misattributed.

In addition, the removal of quotes is allowed with an edit summary and should "almost always" be moved to talk page. His assertion that quotes can't be removed is false. Though it wasn't me who originally removed them, I am monitoring Jedi3 and reverting his disruptive actions. Instead of edit-warring everywhere and making things up, I suggest he read the rules. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 02:10, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

You did not move the quote to the talkpage as required and as explained to you several times by several people (also on your talkpage). If you do not move it, the deletion can be reverted for this reason alone.
Additionally, for this article, this quote is relevant and important. The quote comes from a very influential novel (first detective novel), and the main plot device is the moonstone, whose origin and final destination is Somnath temple. So the novel's description of Somnath is very relevant for this article. You are also mistaken in your belief that fiction books cannot be quoted.--Jedi3 (talk) 11:21, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Jedi3 I am only reverting your edits. That principal of moving to talk page doesn't apply here as my real intention is stopping your disruptive edits. But I started this page to avoid edit war. It doesn't matter if the novel is famous or not or if the author is famous. Is the quote even itself famous? There are a thousand of "influential novels" talking about many historical people or places, for example Caesar, Napoleon, Waterloo, Gettysburg etc
Why should your addition be treated as special. If we do this, thousands of fictional quotes can be added everywhere. There is no moonstone of Somnath. It is fiction. We cannot add just about anything someone made up. In short this also concerns with notability and relevance to the topic. And as you said the real topic is "The Moonstone". Somnath is not the real topic. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 12:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
You are making it sound like the quote is random, it is not. The quote is about Somnath and therefore relevant. Yes, many English books may talk about Waterloo, but how many English classics talk about Somnath? The book and the "moonstone" is also known as the Diamond of Somnath Temple. --Jedi3 (talk) 11:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Jedi3 Your quote is random and not notable. Everything someone says it is not notable. The real subject in your quote is the moonstone's origins. Also the link you claimed [2], "The Diamond of Somnath Temple" is not the real title by Collins. You have made a desparate effort that it is known as such. It seems actually made up by additional author or editor - Boman H. Mehta. Read this link, it clearly says it is an "edited and abridged version" of the "The Moonstone" in 1958, much later than Collins. Just because it talks about Somnath briefly doesn't mean it should be here. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 16:11, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Also I see only 1 person on my talkpage and repeating the same thing everywhere else, that is you. Do also care to read the rules I left at your own talk page before informing me. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 12:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

User:DanielTom also told you the same thing on Tipu Sultan about not deleting quotes altogether without moving them, which I'm sure you remember. --Jedi3 (talk) 11:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Jedi3 DanielTom was referring to another editor who removed a quote regarding inscription on Tipu Sultan's sword claiming the quote was not his saying. He only said "the quote should not be removed", not "no quote should not be removed". He only referred to the inscription whoch was claimed as Tipu's sayings. Do not twist statements of others and making bad faith allegations.
Disputed or Misattributed only belongs to dsputed or misattributed quotes. Per Template:Remove misattributed quotes should be shifted to misattributed. Same is with Wikipedia:Misattributed. No explicit policy on disputed, but quotes that aren't disputed shouldn't be called "Disputed" as it will be an unsourced claim. Your quote is not disputed or misattributed.
Read the rules and follow them instead of making excuses that someone said this or that and making up your own rules of what can be removed or not. The real rules already exist and clarify conditions to add or remove quotes. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 16:11, 13 January 2018 (UTC)