Talk:Uesugi Kenshin

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Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 10:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sourcing existing quotes[edit]

I'm trying to source the two current quotes. I have an odd possibility on the "rice and salt" quote that I'll check out in the next day or so. The "engage in combat" have several less-than-ideal sources, but I may be able to pin it down to a specific page in a specific edition of Suzuki's Zen Buddhism and Its Influence on Japanese Culture with a little effort. I've added what I've found so far, which is more than we will probably ultimately need. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 21:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

By the way, the idea I had about "rice and salt" didn't pan out. Sorry, folks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The "rice and salt" episode is quite famous. "I hear that Ujiyasu and Ujizane are using salt to torment you. This is cowardly and unjust. I fight you with bouts and arrows, not with rice and salt, so I beg you henceforth to obtain salt from my lands." ~ DanielTom (talk) 16:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Japanese translation[edit]


  • Battles should be won with swords and spears, not rice and salt.
    • allegedly said to his rival Takeda Shingen after he delivered badly needed salt to the Takeda province of Kai.