User:Jeffq/Near-term
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This page provides quick links to pages that I think need attention but haven't the time to fix or tag appropriately.
Potential VfDs
[edit]- A Decalogue of Canons for Observation in Practical Life., A Decalogue of Canons for observation in practical life.: merged into Thomas Jefferson; no one is going to type this in, with periods; search finds TJ article fine already
- Henry Spencer — notability and quote sourcing questioned in Peter Stibrany VfD
- King of Fighters electronic game character articles: Iori Yagami, Kyo Kusanagi, Kim Kaphwan, Shermie, Choi Bunge, Yuri Sakazaki, Goro Daimon, King (King of Fighters), Benimaru Nikaido, Joe Higashi, Ryo Sakazaki, Billy Kane, Andy Bogard, Duck King, K', Blue Mary, Orochi (King of Fighters), Shingo Yabuki, Chang Koehan, Choi Bounge, Goenitz, Kasumi Todoh, Lin (King of Fighters), Athena Asamiya, Clark Steel, Ralf Jones, Tizoc (Fatal Fury), Bonne Jenet, Robert Garcia, Rugal Bernstein, Saisyu Kusanagi, Sie Kensou, Geese Howard, King (SNK character), K9999, Chizuru Kagura, Brian Battler, Eiji Kisaragi, Leona Heidern, Zero (King of Fighters)
- created en masse in Feb-Mar 2006; tweaked by another user in March 2006; no activity since; no sources
- List of misquotations — old article, useful when created (1st months of WQ), now replaced by misquotations in specific articles
- Mark Mirabello — quasi-notable author of 3 English books (Amazon rankings 720K, 1.2M, 2.4M); deleted from WP; discuss 1st w/ Blackhood
- Missionality — not even a word, acc. to MWO & Cambridge; could it be a useful theme under another name?
- Sins (webcomic) — w:Sins (webcomic), deleted on Wikipedia
- Stuyvesant High School — see Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Balboa High School (San Francisco) when it's created
- Wikiquote:Template examples — superfluous, out-of-date; only link from Wikiquote:Templates
- Wikiquote:Template/default — superfluous, out-of-date; only link from Wikiquote talk:Templates/Archive
- User:Norman Levitt, User talk:Norman Levitt: edited only a single day (8 Oct 2006) to vandalize, create nonsense, and post long WP tracts that (altho interesting) serve not WQ purpose; username violates WQ:USERNAME "well-known living" name (see w:Norman Levitt)
- Potential reviews
- Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Nick DiPaolo — nominator given veto power
- Jeff Davidson — possible vanity article
- Last words in Isaac Asimov's fiction and many others in Category:Fictional last words — seems like an excuse to collect trivia and give away endings rather than provide select, pithy quotes
Urgent maintenance problems
[edit]- WQ:VFDA no longer works well; must change system, preferably toward (not necessarily into) Wikipedia system.
- Phase 1: Convert WQ:VFDA to WP-like log system.
- Step 1.1: Implement a WP-like Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Log. Done.
- Step 1.2: Convert all old archives into new logs. In process.
- Step 1.3: Update policy and documentation to reflect new system. In process.
- Step 1.4 (optional): Use this excuse to finish restoring missing links in ancient VFDA headings. In process.
- Phase 2: Move page titles toward WP structure.
- NOTE: Should probably be delayed while more urgent WQ:SD update is completed.
- Step 2.1: Decide whether to retain "Votes for" or change to "Pages for".
- Rationale: Full WP "XfD" system still probably unwise, but "Votes" gives misleading impression of process.
- Step 2.2: Move all archived entries to "Wikiquote:[Pages|Votes] for deletion/PAGENAME".
- Step 2.3: Update policy and documentation to reflect new page names and structures.
- Phase 3: Switch to WP system of nominate using subpages.
- Needs more investigation, as WP system has a high learning curve and may take some work and maintenance to ensure it works.
- NOTE: Should probably be delayed while more urgent WQ:SD update is completed.
- Phase 1: Convert WQ:VFDA to WP-like log system.
- New Wikiquote:Speedy deletions: unresolved issues to raise
- What should our policy be on notable subject with totally inane and invariably unsourced quotes (common with video games and wrestlers, to name 2 major class offenders)?
- Wikiquote:Guide to layout: includes info (esp. on themes) that encourages bad sourcing
- Category:Articles needing source cleanup - use {{source cleanup}} to collect articles whose sources are not explicit and detailed (i.e., bare links, inaccurate titles, news/TV without dates or pages, etc.); might also want to use to convert excessive use of footnoting to standard source-line format
- Template:Quoteworthy — use to tag general problem of large numbers of quotes that aren't original or pithy
- Probably would frequently accompany a {{checkcopyright}} tag because this is a very common problem with TV-show articles, where folks paste large tracts of unoriginal dialogue in order to describe scenes and plots instead of to cite excellent, original lines
- Import w:Template:Fix for general cleanup efforts.
- Import w:Template:Page number for tagging sources that need page numbers.
Policy
[edit]- Compilation copyright (aka "presentation copyright"; involving "selection and arrangement" with "a minimal degree of creativity")
- NOTE: Quotes from fictional works, which are entirely creative, are not considered "facts" ineligible for copyright protection, so use of quotes must stay within fair-use guidelines, regardless of selection and arrangement.
- Tysver, Daniel A.. "Database Legal Protection". Bitlaw. Beck & Tysver. Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- Goad, Michael (2005). "Copy Right, Copy Sense: What is Required for a Compilation to be Eligible for Copyright?". PDDOC.com. Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- David Lanzotti & Doug Ferguson[1] (11 April 2006). "Copyright Protection of Databases". Databases and The Law. University of North Carolina School of Law. Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- Copyrightable by selection & accuracy judgment: "CDN Inc. v. Kapes, 197 F.3d 1256 (9th Cir. 1999)". Law by… Copyright. Cornell University Legal Information Institute (1 August 2007). Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- "Copy Right, Copy Sense: Bellsouth v. Donnelley". PDDOC.com (2 September 1993). Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- "Copy Right, Copy Sense: Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone". PDDOC.com (27 March 1991). Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- "Copy Right, Copy Sense: Burrow-Giles Lithographic Co. v. Sarony". PDDOC.com (17 March 1884). Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- Carson, David O. (23 September 2003). "Statement of David O. Carson: Database and Collections of Information Misappropriation Act of 2003". Copyright.gov. United States Copyright Office. Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- Tangential:
- Recipes may be patentable (process), but not copyrightable except for their prose: "Copy Right, Copy Sense: Publications International v. Meredith Corporation". PDDOC.com (8 July 1996). Retrieved on 2008-02-03.
- Need easy to read (and understand) explanation of formatting styles & what's important.
- Dialog: Components are Quotee, Quote, and Other Stuff; how to & why we separate these
- Electronic games: Need to come up w/ basic guidelines
- Copyright
- Codify & advertise the 3-5-8 rule of thumb?
- Talk header for errant articles with succinct version, per Koweja?
- External links
- What makes an acceptable Wikiquote external link? What do we want from these? How do we translate w:Wikipedia:External links to Wikiquote?
- Should we just cite references, per Talk:Firefly#References?
- Should we allow single-quote articles? We don't have WP's problem w/ permanent stubs (insufficient info) or paper limitations, and quote books do allow these one-hit wonders.
- Collecting precedents and explanations (many should have earlier instances)
- Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/The Fly II — avoiding IMDb copyvio; sourcing film/TV quotes; achievable policies
- User talk:66.90.171.187 — no unreleased-film articles
- Talk:Songs From Family Guy — why not entire songs
- Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/A song is to the ear, like a fragrance to the nose. — why no single-quote articles
- User talk:69.135.206.147#Vandalism — always explain removals; don't call non-defacement "vandalism"; AGF, use test templates in order unless evidence of deceptive practices
- Quoteworthiness
- "That was Number 5!" example as difference between inherently memorable and memorable only within substantial (missing) context
- Published third-party use of quote to succinctly express or summarize an idea (e.g., much of Shakespeare; George Carlin's "Nail two things/objects that have never been nailed together before and some schmuck will buy them from you")
- Quote value vs. sourceability
- Sourcing translations — why Wikiquote is different from Wikipedia in editor translations
- Theme specificity and relevance
- Presentation copyright
- Why notability? Why not post personal details of unfamous people?
- Specific sourcing
- Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Arthur Norman — academic notability threshold; meatpuppets; unclear votes & votes not reflecting changes; failure to address cited problems; opportunity for non-prejudicial recreation
- WQ:SOURCE#Brief, specific source lines with detailed footnotes — simplified source lines w/ detailed footnotes
- Talk:Blackadder#Cleanup tag — 3-5 best quotes per ep; what makes a good/bad quote
- Talk:Mitt Romney#Who is/is not notable is individual editor's POV. — timeliness vs. timelessness
- WQ:VP#Problem with formatting — how best to cite sources; why cite sources; why split into sourced/unsourced; fr:WQ approach; edit summaries
- User talk:Mmoncur#Sourcing quotes — sourcing to end attribution arguments
- Talk:Lyrics#Sourcing — "Anonymous" does not mean unsourceable
- General appeal vs. fan-only comprehension (inside humor): Rebo & Zooty, "The Day of the Dead", Babylon 5
- Transwiki problems: User talk:Sceptre#Picasso
- Dealing with usernames banned on other projects: numbered list in User talk:Zarbon#Stop unsupported accusations or be blocked
- Atomic quotes, one-quote-per-page organization, linkable quotes, random quote selection — how we organize quotes and why
Interproject standardization
[edit]- Move Zorro, The Gay Blade to Zorro, the Gay Blade & fix redirects on both WP & WQ
- Wikiquote:Template — currently redir to Wikiquote:Templates, but some WQ-useful loan templates from WP expect PROJECT:Template to explain MediaWiki templates, not Wikiquote article boilerplate
- {{unreferenced}}, {{fact}} — untangle & fix preliminary attempts to bring these over from WP
- Copy over more sophisticated "cite" templates and their supporting templates
- Templates: Add unofficial but common use of "categories=no" parameter for selective suppression of inclusion in categories (e.g, for help/instruction pages that provide an example of what the template looks like)
- Copy useful tweaks to project CSS/JS files
- Table "collapsable" feature
Quote of the day
[edit]- Uplink to Qotd/(month), previous- and next-day links for each month-date article
- WP-style calendar navigation
- How to address global problem WP date article errors, often in protected anniversary templates
- RSS feed for QotD?
- Should have event dates on month-date pages, just like WP
- WQ-only links would make clear which people could be used for birth/death/anniversary quotes
- Would require at least informal periodic synchronization
- Still need to address WP month-date article errors
- Might use same idea to list birth/death/anniversary dates for year articles, solving that problem as well
- Consider Fys's year pages; e.g., Wikiquote:Year pages/1921
Articles
[edit]- Uri Geller
- "Cutlery molester": Haines, Lester (August 21, 2006). "Uri Geller sues over Elvis pad". The Register (via Yahoo! News). Retrieved on 2006-08-26.
- What's the Matter with Kansas? — possible copyvio
Formatting
[edit]- Wikiquote:Templates & subpages are ancient and seriously deficient, especially on sourcing guidelines
- Poem extension
<poem>
is implemented as<div class="poem">
- If placed inside
ul.li
, poem's div is inexplicably treated as an empty element - Q: why not implement it as
<span class="poem">
? That'd be more flexible.
Miscellany
[edit]- Create list/discussion page for brainstorming & analyzing exactly what the world wants from quotes, and what Wikiquote can and can't provide and why.
- Consider future possibilities not incompatible with Wikimedia Foundation goals and restrictions.
- Create Wikiquote:Most common Wikiquote faux pas per Wikiquote:Policies and guidelines and Wikiquote:Welcome, newcomers. We really need this!
- Stemming the apostrophe plague: find or rewrite concise guideline to stop apostrophe addition to anything that ends in "s", whether for plurals, possessives, contractions, numbers, or acronyms, for both nouns or pronouns).
- Plural surnames: "Q & A: Making Names Plural…" at GrammarAndMore.com.
- EricBaumansucks (talk · contributions) — used to create Eric Bauman attack page; should this username be blocked?
- Can templates be used to format poetry & lyrics? (e.g., {{poem | line1 | line2 | ... | lineX}}
- Can Semantic MediaWiki project help us with atomic quote collection and display?