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Are any pages considered complete and is wikiquote an endless argument over the most meaningful arbitrary samples?[edit]

I was wondering if there were any pages where every known quotation from an individual has been added already, and whether task forces for particular topics of interest might be of use in moving Wikiquote closer to completion. I find it odd that there's a limited number of quotations to add from ancient Greek philosophers, yet their pages continue to grow over the years with seemingly no end in sight despite multiple people working on them. New individuals will continue to cite old texts, however I rarely see any evidence quotes have actually been quoted by someone other than the translator. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

@CensoredScribe: "I rarely see any evidence quotes have actually been quoted by someone other than the translator." Consider the following quotation:

  • Οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δέ θ' ὕλη
    τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη·
    ὣς ἀνδρῶν γενεὴ ἣ μὲν φύει ἣ δ' ἀπολήγει.
    • As the generation of leaves, so is that of mankind:
      some leaves the wind scatters earthwards, but the fertile
      woodland grows others as spring returns in season.
      So with men: one generation grows, while another dies.
    • Homer, Iliad (c. 750 BC), Book VI, lines 146–149 (as translated by Peter Green)

Although this is one of the most famous and widely-cited quotations from the Iliad, Google returns only 1 result for "As the generation of leaves, so is that of mankind" (with quotation marks). Of course it all depends on which translation you use. (Here are a few others: Pope's "Like leaves on trees the race of man is found" – 8 140 results; Butler's "Men come and go as leaves year by year upon the trees" – 1 210 results; Rieu's "Men in their generations are like the leaves of the trees" – 993 results; Lattimore's "As is the generation of leaves, so is that of humanity" – 2 230 results; Fitzgerald's "Very like leaves upon this earth are the generations of men" – 144 results; Fagles's "Like the generations of leaves, the lives of mortal men" – 4 320 results; .....) I'll let you figure out the rest. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Why do you not add any quotes, about the Iliad, like commentary from well known professors analyzing it? You currently have just two that mention it specifically from Northrop Frye and Voltaire, are those seriously the only two notable commentaries that have been written on it? Also, are you close to being done with adding quotes to the page for the Iliad yet and how many of those thousands of google search results you think are links to the blogs from unpublished unknowns that are completely worthless here? Including citations for every academic piece of writing on the Iliad would be exhausting but is the sort of thing researchers do. The page currently indicates that no one who doesn't translate Homer has ever actually recited a passage of his before, when like the google search results, there are thousands. I think showing a particular passage has been cited once or twice would be a nice objective way of showing it's wide spread value to society and better represents the consensus of academia on the importance of particular passages. I appreciate you having presented the number of google search results for each iteration, that information does illustrate the general level of continuing popularity of a particular translation for a particular passage. CensoredScribe (talk) 22:00, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Let's look at the Frye quotation you mentioned:

  • It is hardly possible to overestimate the importance for Western Literature of the Iliad's demonstration that the fall of an enemy, no less than of a friend or leader, is tragic and not comic. With the Iliad, once for all, an objective and disinterested element enters into the poet's vision of human life. Without this element, poetry is merely instrumental to various social aims, to propaganda, to amusement, to devotion, to instruction: with it, it acquires the authority that since the Iliad it has never lost, an authority based, like the authority of science, on the vision of nature as an impersonal order.

This insight into Homer's mind, and into the purpose of poetry itself, is widely quoted and of interest even to those who have never read the Iliad. Per Wikiquote:Wikiquote, "quotations the essence of wisdom refined to a handful of well-chosen words." I don't expect there to be many more quotations about the Iliad that fit this definition, but of course I can't be sure. Maybe there are. (It is said of Virgil that, in writing the Aeneid, "lest anything should impede his momentum, he would let certain things pass unfinished; others he propped up, as it were, with lightweight verses, joking that they were placed there as struts, to hold up the edifice until the solid columns arrived." Wikiquote articles are constructed in a similar fashion, the way I see it.) This is a collaborative project that will never be "complete". ~ DanielTom (talk) 23:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

It's true that as a whole Wikiquote will never be complete, and historical figures continue to have material written on them, however given the abundance of material written on the subject the page seems rather lacking, it could really use improvement from the inclusion of contemporary experts opinions. Northorp Frie died in 1991, what living authors writings on Homer would you recommend?
Also, do you think William Godwin had anything interesting to say about Virgil, perhaps you've had time to read his entry in Lives of the Necromancers and found a suitable selection to add. CensoredScribe (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
No. I'm not interested in the stupid medieval traditions about Virgil being a magician or a necromancer. Needless to say, if you can find a "quotable" (i.e. not too concerned with particulars – which rules out almost the entire Lives of the Necromancers – and preferably widely-quoted) quotation about Virgil, that is notable and memorable, even if it is stupid, do feel free to add it. ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Excluding medieval traditions would result in most of the quotes on religious figures with miracles attributed to them being removed from Wikiquote, and you continue to avoid the question of what living authority do you recommend on Homer, perhaps because you don't know of any, nor are you interested in what any of the living have to say on the subject. Also you just said yourself it's a tradition, indicating it's been repeated in more than one source, so presumably if I just found the source Godwin used, you could have to concede that source has been quoted before, at least the once. Now define widely quoted, how many times one must be quoted to be widely quoted (according to you) and how it is someones words can start a tradition without them being widely quoted. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
According to me, if it is quoted (i.e. presented as a memorable or insightful quote, not a long excerpt) in any reasonably-notable (e.g. book) secondary source (just one is enough) about Virgil, you are welcome to add it to Virgil#Quotes about Virgil. ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Daniel Tom, the just one secondary source statement is incredibly helpful. Now if you would just mind answering if there is a contemporary living academic source you are aware of who has been widely quoted on Homer, I would like to know who would be the ideal person to interview. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't know of any "living authority" on Homer. But I'm no expert on the subject. "the ideal person to interview"? There are some videos on YouTube of Stanley Lombardo reading from his translations of the Iliad and the Odyssey which you may want to check out. (Here's the famous recognition scene between Odysseus and Penelope.) ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Using quotations for intros and racism in the United States.[edit]

The intro right now for the page Racism in the United States is a single sentence that suggests it started in the 19th century. Daniel Tom, ever constructive, thought it would be in the best interest of wikiquote to revert my edit rather than fix it or make their own improvements to the factual accuracy of the description. They also noted I didn't attribute a quotation in the intro which brings up the question of whether or not a quotation can be used in the intro, as Wikipedia often uses them in it's opening descriptions on a subject. I was also also told, this was POV pushing for the quoted section saying there are lingering socio economic effects. CensoredScribe (talk) 17:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree that the intro was a bit lacking (so I've expanded it, using the intro from Wikipedia). I would not recommend using a quote in an intro, instead we usually just stick to factual information describing the page's subject. ~ UDScott (talk) 00:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

How to add Today in Science quotes without risking the unprecedented specter of a copyright violation lawsuit against the English Wikiquote.[edit]

Currently there are a number of quotes on the pages for Organic chemistry, Botany, Chemistry, Astronomy, Machines, Technology, Nuclear weapons, Nuclear war, Nuclear power]], Wind, Geology History of Science and Science taken from Today in Science History; and thought it better to start a separate thread on the subject for those uninterested in wading through a lengthy conservation with Daniel Tom on my general conduct as an editor to address a larger issue. If it's simply a matter of reformatting the citations that can be done, but if all of the quotes Today in Science History has collected are off limits, or if using only 10 of them is acceptable, I would like to know why that is and how Wikiquote can ever hope to compete with larger preexisting collections of sourced quotations. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

You can't just dump entire pages from "Today in Science History" on Wikiquote. And, as I said, quote selection and formatting is not the only concern, because you also copied the references word-for-word without double-checking them and without attribution. If you are not double-checking (confirming) the quotations and references (one by one), the least you can do is add "as reported in [Today in Science History link]" to the citation. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:27, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Would someone like to collaborate on a page, or does no one like me that much or care about teamwork?[edit]

I would be willing to assist anyone with working collaboratively on any task at Wikiquote and would like to coordinate efforts through talk page discussions for those willing to speak with me, however I'm afraid no one will offer to do so I've been accused of medical conditions I don't have. It's been months since anyone thanked me for any edit despite the fact I've added quite a bit to major articles, and those few acknowledgements that I'm not a complete failure almost always came from Peter1C or in the very beginning from Kalki. I gather I am not welcome here, as at no point did an administrator say calling someone a mentally damaged five year old was unbecoming of this site, yet I was alleged of ageism and blocked by Kalki. Perhaps if I had done what Daniel Tom did and said I think user I bully has X disease...but than I realized they are just a troll so I'm not actually accusing them of that because if I did that I would be blocked, I'm just throwing it out there for others to latch onto.
Anyways, I'm leaving; if you would like to say your goodbyes or ask me to stay and help out with something, I would appreciate it. I would say this has been fun but being insulted constantly is not remotely pleasant and I could have learned these quotes without adding them and being ridiculed for being lazy by people refuse to work together constructively on anything, even a user talkpage. CensoredScribe (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

becoming an administrator[edit]

All of the articles that talk about becoming an administrator say you must have been an editor for a while. This is a vague term. What is meant by "a while"?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Usually a period of regular activities over at least a few months are deemed appropriate before serious consideration for administrator positions are initiated. ~ Kalki·· 02:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Would two years normally be enough time? Also, does being an administrator on another wiki or having a questionable sense of taste in regards to page decoration factor in at all? It would be great if there was a more thorough guide to becoming an administrator, listing do's and don'ts. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Two years should be enough, subject to users' opinions.--Jusjih (talk) 02:22, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Having a good record as an admin elsewhere is certainly a plus point. However, every wiki is different and experience on one wiki may not transfer well to another one.--Abramsky (talk) 15:54, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Will being blocked from Wikipedia affect the ability of a user to become an administrator on Wikiquote? Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Being blocked from Wikipedia can affect the outcome; if the block was long enough ago and you have proven to be a constructive editor, there should be nothing stopping said user. I'd suggest (assuming you were talking about yourself) you request an unblock over at Wikipedia, mentioning the constructive edits you have made here. hiàn 05:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Presentation copyright[edit]

Does presentation copyright prevent a quote from being used if it is already written on another online source?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

No, but it means that generally presentations or listings of quotes should not be copied in bulk from currently copyrighted sources, and formatting of citations of any individual quotes should be adapted to general practices here, and use of any distinctive commentaries or distinctive formatting of citations, sections or pages used elsewhere rigorously avoided. The presentation of entire listings used elsewhere, or extensive portions of them in particular forms, should definitely be avoided. ~ Kalki·· 02:58, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Bulk is a bit vague, is there a rough number for how many is too many? It also seems to come off a bit as being finders keepers in regards to laying claim to famous quotations that are in the public domain, like laying claim to the moon. Mass copying of quotes from Today in Science History has been discouraged, while Real Buddha Quotes seems to be acceptable, with the distinction seemingly arbitrary. I imagine having just said that, this will be goodbye Buddha quotes. CensoredScribe (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


Is there a concept of creating articles featuring quotes about a certain year? If so is it for any years or only notable years in history?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I would prefer a sortable table like for advertising slogans, but we need certain kind of consensus to unify the future format.--Jusjih (talk) 04:28, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Participate in Dispute Resolution Focus Group[edit]

The Harvard Negotiation & Mediation Clinical Program is working with the Wikimedia Foundation to help communities develop tools to resolve disputes. You are invited to participate in a focus group aimed at identifying needs and developing possible solutions through collaborative design thinking.

If you are interested in participating, please add your name to the signup list on the Meta-Wiki page.

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to learn from the Wikimedia community. We value all of your opinions and look forward to hearing from you. JosephNegotiation (talk) 22:54, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

One question, are you interested in only opinions and experiences from Wikipedia and it's satellite projects like Wikiquote, or from any that use media wiki software, such as Rational Wiki, Encyclopedia Dramatica and fandom wikis? CensoredScribe (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey 2017[edit]

Hey everyone,

The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech should work on over the next year.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can post technical proposals from now until November 20. The communities will vote on the proposals between November 28 and December 12. You can read more on the 2017 wishlist survey page. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 20:19, 6 November 2017 (UTC)


Is there any way to change your username?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@Just A Regular New Yorker: See m:Changing username. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I haven't dealt with these in years, and name changes are now done only by inter-wiki stewards, and not by officials of individual wikis. Check things out at meta:Steward requests/Username changes on Meta-wiki. ~ Kalki·· 02:44, 8 November 2017 (UTC) // oops — didn't notice this had already been answered. So it goes…

Changes to the global ban policy[edit]

Hello. Some changes to the community global ban policy have been proposed. Your comments are welcome at m:Requests for comment/Improvement of global ban policy. Please translate this message to your language, if needed. Cordially. Matiia (Matiia) 00:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)


Is it really appropriate to categorize by Category:Male incels and Category:Female incels? I don't think so. --Superchilum (talk) 08:58, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

No. Admin, please delete. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:16, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes check.svgY Done ~ UDScott (talk) 17:25, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

es:Plantilla:Cita destacada[edit]

It would be cool if we could import this template into English Wikiquote. ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:45, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

@DanielTom: Well, you can! It's all an open license. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

how to place pictures on Wikipedia on Wikiquote[edit]

Happily now I know how to place a picture of Wiki-Commons on Wikiquote. But many times I can not find a picture of a modern artist on Wiki-Commons, but I can find some on Wikipedia. How can I use these pictures from Wikipedia, to place them on Wikiquote

I like to place more pictures on the Wikiquote page of Abstract Expresssionism, for instance: And there are some good pictures on Wikipedia to use, like:,_1957,_Tate_Gallery.jpg#/media/File:%27Boon%27_oil_on_canvas_painting_by_James_Brooks,_1957,_Tate_Gallery.jpg

How do I handle this. Can somebody please describe the steps for me? FotoDutch (talk)

You can't, because those images are protected by copyright. Wikipedia allows "fair use" images, Wikiquote doesn't. ~ DanielTom (talk) 21:01, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Strange that there are different levels of copyright for one Wiki.FotoDutch (talk)
@FotoDutch: I agree that it can be confusing and each language edition can choose their own local policy. Compare w:en:A Love Supreme with w:es:A Love Supreme--only the English one has an album cover (tho the other photos could be added to Spanish version). —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:32, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Can an anonymous editor create a new page?[edit]

Hi, This seems like a friendly place, and I love quotes. But I am not sure how much time I have to contribute, so I was wondering if it makes sense to become a user? Since I think I would like to ultimately create a new page, the question is, will I have to be a confirmed user before I can do that, like on regular Wikipedia, or are things more lenient here? Thanks. 11:44, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

If you already have a Wikipedia account, then you have one here, too--it seems like you're familiar with that site. I'd definitely recommend making an account and we hope you'll stay here. All users can create new pages. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:09, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers[edit]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)


What is Wikiquote's policy on profanity? Do we quote it as is, or replace with with symbols(###,***,etc)?Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

We quote the provided words; there is no censorship of the provided words here. ~ Kalki·· 02:12, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

QOTD image too big, on the wrong side[edit]

Screenshot of the Main Page today. Shouldn't the QOTD image be smaller, and on the left?

In my opinion the QOTD image should be smaller, and on the left. Agree/Disagree?

Currently the size of the Quote of the Day image simply dwarfs the quote of the day itself.

(Ningauble actually used to reduce the size of the Quote of the Day images – with the edit summary "reduce excessive whitespace", some 40 times –, but Kalki still persists, which is why I'm asking for community input.)

Thanks ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:40, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Yes, think the image should be smaller. Image size was discussed several times but Kalki nevertheless has indeed persisted. (I notice that, since it was pointed out today, UDScott quietly reduced the size of today's image.[1])
I do not think it is a big deal for the image to be on the right when it is a portrait facing left. The convention of having the image face toward the text seems sensible enough. It is a much larger problem that the QOTD box design overwhelms practically everything above the fold of the Main Page. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:26, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I agree - sorry for being quiet (I intended to respond here, but after I reduced the size a bit, I was called away from my computer until now). ~ UDScott (talk) 20:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Kalki is still making the images too big. ~ DanielTom (talk) 09:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

I've reduced the size again. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:29, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
He just keeps doing it. ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I again reduced the size. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Same problem, different day. ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Again. ~ DanielTom (talk) 00:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
In the past, I have reduced the image size (and I have been trying to keep an eye on them. But this one does not appear to be an issue - it is at the reduced size of 222px that we have been using. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Mobile version of “quote of the day”[edit]

Did anyone else notice what today’s (November 27, 2017) “quote of the day” looks like on the mobile website? The picture on the right is abnormally small and it was nearly impossible to tell it was a photo from the small screen of a mobile device. In general, I find that sometimes things don’t convert well from desktop to mobile. I don’t know enough about editing Wikiquote to fix the problem but I am trying to bring this to the attention of one who does.Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 01:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

User Page Protection[edit]

Is there any way to get a user page protected? My user page has been vandalized by a user claiming that I am a kitten. This is not a joke. What can I do to prevent this from occurring again? Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Page under deletion which needs to be controlled[edit]

Hi, there's TheKingHusker, under deletion process, which is vandalized by removing the template of deletion ("vfd-new"). Just FYI, so that more eyes are better than few eyes to control it :-) maybe a semi-protection? --Superchilum (talk) 11:26, 16 December 2017 (UTC) p.s.: BTW, isn't there something like w:Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention?

Semiprotected for a week. (Other boards for requesting assistance are at WQ:AN and WQ:VIP.) ~ Ningauble (talk) 18:29, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata request for comment on the ideal data import proccess[edit]

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Dear all

We are currently running a discussion on Wikidata about what the ideal data import process looks like. We want to get the thoughts of people who work on different Wikimedia projects who have different needs and knowledge of different kinds of data to make it our roadmap as inclusive as possible, please take a look.

Many thanks

John Cummings (talk) 01:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

More articles not linked to from Wikipedia[edit]

Here are a few more articles that I've started on Wikiquote over the past couple of years, and that aren't linked to from their corresponding Wikipedia articles ('cause I can't edit en.wikipedia). I notice that when I create an article, admin Miszatomic and (more recently) fellow-regular-user Risto hot sir sometimes add {{wikiquote}} to the external links section of its respective Wikipedia article (thanks guys), but the ones in this list are still lacking it. There is, of course, absolutely no hurry to do this somewhat tiresome task. The ones I'd appreciate to see linked to from Wikipedia the most are in bold.

William MuirPaul DaviesElijah FentonCharles SymmonsHermann Samuel ReimarusCarnation RevolutionPosidoniusBuso RenkinGeorges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de BuffonIsmail ibn Musa MenkEmma DonoghuePokémon Gold and SilverPolizianoAntónio GuterresMarcion of SinopeCharles WilliamsGilbert WakefieldThomas YaldenRichard StanyhurstLucille CliftonTerrance HayesJoseph WartonAllen MandelbaumEdward FairfaxThe Prince and the PauperTales from ShakespeareAulus GelliusDerek ParfitRichard Maitland, 4th Earl of LauderdaleCameron DuncanOs LusíadasDavid FrumColette DowlingGil VicenteAlice OswaldThe Faerie QueeneMasterplan (band)Salvador SobralNguyễn DuBook of LamentationsJohn HooleJuan Luis VivesJohn Miles FoleyCantar de Mio CidStanley LombardoAnthony KennyOlaudah EquianoShi Nai'anCao XueqinRuan JiZhu YizunJin ShengtanNguyễn Gia ThiềuTrần Tế XươngChế Lan ViênĐặng Trần CônBei DaoXi MurongArthur Waley

Thanks, and Happy New Year everybody. ~ DanielTom (talk) 23:14, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

    • Yes check.svgY Done, added {{wikiquote}} links to all pages - ~ [[User:Miszatomic|Miszatomic] (talk) 11:46, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
@Miszatomic: thank you! ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:56, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Chat about a structured Wikiquote[edit]

From Wikiquote:Village pump archive 51:

Wouldn't Wikiquote be more useful as a database of quotes than as a MediaWiki?

I'm making a software application and I want it to be able to show a random quote, and I've found out that Wikiquote's (MediaWiki) API can't give a quote, only a page of quotes (as on the wiki), so my application would also have to try to read the page for quotes.

Rather than this, a database of quotes (where a quote, not a page, is the smallest unit of information) could give me a random quote, making Wikiquote more useful to my application. Also, it would be easier for a contributor to add a new quote, as you wouldn't have to edit a page, just submit the quote and its author and it could find its way to the right page.

Is there any effort to turn Wikiquote into a database? I am willing to help. I think the best place to start would be to accept new quotes this way.

// the database
const quotes = [
  { quote: "Yo.", author: "A" },
  { quote: "Eh?", author: "B" }

// Add a quote.
// add_quote("What?", "Dad")
const add_quote = (quote, author) =>
  quotes.push({ quote, author });

// Get a random quote.
// random_quote() => { quote: "Eh?", author: "B" }
const random_quote = () => quotes[Math.floor(Math.random() * quotes.length)];

// Get all of the quotes by an author.
// quotes_by_author("A") => ["Yo."]
const quotes_by_author = author =>
  quotes.filter(quote => === author).map(quote => quote.quote);

Apart from the quotes themselves, just this is more useful to my application than Wikiquote as it stands. I'm trying to say there's a lot to be gained for relatively little effort.

That is a possibility that we have discussed on many occasions. I am all for it. BD2412 T 15:17, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I didn't think to search the Village pump archives before posting this. I'd like to edit the header to suggest doing that, but I don't have permission. --WillWhite (talk) 22:16, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@, BD2412, WillWhite: I've been an advocate of this for awhile now. See also m:Structured Wikiquote. I have a domain name for just this purpose. Are you interested in participating? —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: Yes. I'm thinking about using the parsing function in this library to show a random quote from Wikiquote in my application, then for the user to add the quote to a database, e.g. the one you're proposing. --WillWhite (talk) 19:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
@Koavf: Could we have a real-time chat? --WillWhite (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
@WillWhite: Sure. Do you mean IM or video conference or phone call? Do you have in mind talking one-on-one or a community brain-storming session? —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:00, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: I was thinking a one-on-one phone or video call, at least first. Do you have Skype? --WillWhite (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@WillWhite: I could get Skype but I'd prefer to use Google Hangouts or (even better) something that is free software. Would that work for you? —Justin (koavf)TCM 11:05, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: Jitsi today? --WillWhite (talk) 15:57, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: I'm in UTC, going to sleep soon. How about you? --WillWhite (talk) 19:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@WillWhite: And I just woke up (long nite!) —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:50, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Memorable quotes[edit]

I don't see any of these here yet. —Justin (koavf)TCM 00:03, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Quotes of the day[edit]

Why are almost all quotes political? What happened to some of the wonderful quotes you used to have from literature, history, philosophy?—This unsigned comment is by (talkcontribs) 22:37, 17 January 2018‎.

Good question. My sense is that the person who picks the quotes is more keen on promoting his political ("feel-good", Democrat-leaning) agenda than on selecting the best, most memorable quotes "from literature, history, philosophy" (see Wikiquote's purpose). Another source of bias is his commitment to religious universalism. No one is perfect. ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Despite how you might interpret the choices made, I don't think that it is fair to characterize the selection of the quotes in this way - if you do object, feel free to vote for a better quote (for example, see Wikiquote:Quote of the day/January). We all have an opportunity to help in the selection process, but most do not participate. As they say about politics, what good does it do to complain if you don't vote? ~ UDScott (talk) 17:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
I do !vote and suggest quotes myself, sometimes. But I don't think !voting matters very much. Kalki often selects political quotes that no one (other than him) !voted for, and ignores short memorable quotes with many !votes – probably because they don't contain enough wikilinks. This is my honest assessment of the process. I'm NOT saying I could do a better job. And I don't doubt Kalki's intentions are good. To be fair, early on the selected quotes seemed to be much more memorable. Naturally, as the years go by finding adequate quotes (i.e., notable quotes related to any specific day) will prove more challenging. ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:09, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Pages to be deleted[edit]

Hi, look at Special:Contributions/ a lot of pages with no quotes and the same tagline for every film. --Superchilum (talk) 16:35, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svgY Deleted. See the WQ:CRYSTAL policy. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Boldface in all "last words"[edit]

In Last words and Fictional last words (and subpages like Fictional last words in animated films), is there any reason all or most quotes are in bold? In other pages like Love and Time, bold seems reserved for the "best" quotes. Or does it mean that all last words are notable, in a way? Maybe it would be a good idea to remove boldface from a lot of the "last words" quotes and leaving just some bold like in other pages. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I quite agree. Be bold and fix it (sorry about the pun).--Abramsky (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Fine by me. I started with Last words in DC Comics. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
I'll be bold, unlike most quotes in these pages after I edit them. ;) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:15, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Those quotes are completely bold because they are quoted from characters. To only bold what is "important" (who even makes that decision anyway) would bring only confusion, and take attention away from the whole sentence, which is important in of itself for being their final words.Finister2 (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

@Finister2: Then why in most pages only a handful of pages have bold quotes? You restored the boldface I had removed from Last words in Batman media, yet for instance Batman: The Animated Series only has a handful of bold quotes. Most quotes in that page are quoted from characters.
Please don't put words in my mouth. You gave this edit summary at [2], but I never said I thought it would be okay with everyone. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:38, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I disagree that the whole sentences are important in and of itself as their final words, though I did ask at the first message here if that would be the case. Did you just dismiss the idea of using boldface for just the important quotes and then tried to decide what is important for yourself? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:41, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree that removing the bolding is probably the way to go. Having all of the quotes on these pages bolded doesn't really make a lot of sense. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

There mostly there in place of quotation marks, and to give more focus to them over the description.Finister2 (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but that's not generally how we do things here. We do not use quote marks and we do not bold all quotes on a page. Descriptions are instead bulleted and indented to separate them from the quotes themselves. ~ UDScott (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, UDScott.
Also, Finnister2, you know what I mean. Here are two partially bold quotes from The Sandman:
  • "I am anti-life, the Beast of Judgement. I am the dark at the end of everything. The end of universes, gods, worlds … of everything. And what will you be then, Dreamlord?"
    "I am Hope."
    • Choronzon and Dream, playing "the oldest game", in Sandman #4: "A Hope in Hell"
  • "The million lords of hell stand arrayed about you. Tell us, why we should let you leave? Helmet or no, you have no power here — what power have dreams in Hell?"
    "You say I have no power? Perhaps you speak truly. But — you say that dreams have no power here? Tell me, Lucifer Morningstar... Ask yourselves, all of you, what power would Hell have if those here imprisoned were not able to dream of Heaven?"
    • Lucifer and Dream, in Sandman #4: "A Hope in Hell"
--Daniel Carrero (talk) 19:06, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I waited a few days for a reply, then today I restored the un-boldened version of Last words in Batman media. In this discussion, three people seem to support un-bolding, counting myself, Abramsky and UDScott. As of yet, only Finister2 seems to support using bold in all last words. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 23:38, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

May I ask what your motivation for this kind of change is? Did you wake just wake up one morning and decide that something needed to happen about this, or is there a more complex reasoning behind it?Finister2 (talk) 11:43, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I and others already said the reasons above. But I see you ignored them and reverted the Batman page again. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I did not ignore. You left no note and I thought you went rogue. It wasn't until some time afterwards that I thought to manually check this discussion.Finister2 (talk) 19:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
You ignored the reasons given. You could have said "I disagree with the reasons.", but you are acting as though no reasons exist. When you said: "May I ask what your motivation for this kind of change is?" and when you said below "changing bold to unbold for no presented reason".
Aside from that, you didn't answer the 2nd question I asked at your talk page, which is very important: "why would the last words be different?" In other words, would you like to make all quotes at Time and Love completely bold too, or just the last words? No matter the answer, I must ask: why that answer?--Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:28, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I am opposed to using bold to highlight quotes for the same reason I am opposed to highlighting library books. The reader can decide for herself or himself which quotes are the most significant. ~ Peter1c (talk) 18:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

First of all I'm not sure that bolding is the correct way to highlight quotes. It is unclear and there is no explanation. Are these famous quotes? Notable for some reason? Favourite of the author/director/actor?
Secondly, anyways when all the quotes are bolded, there is no meaning to the bolding. As Syndrome says "when everyone's super, no one will be". --SuperJew (talk) 18:24, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Highlighting some quotes is really subjective, and maybe there's no perfect way to do it. But so is building Wikiquote, isn't it? If all words and utterances from books, films, etc. were equally notable, we wouldn't need Wikiquote. The fact that we choose some quotes from books and films to mention here means they have some importance in comparison with other utterances from the same sources.
Perhaps the most witty and/or memorable quotes merit bold-highlighting. This is a tentative guideline. Some Last words and Fictional last words look pretty bland.
Bold-highligthing is already an established practice, isn't it? (Though I wish we had actual numbers as to how many pages have this.) If some people don't want it, would you rather remove all the current bold-highlighting from Time and Love? It seems many other pages found through Special:Random also have bold-highligthing. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:57, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Putting all quotes in bold, like using smaller letters for the citations, is just an alternative way of drawing attention to the quotes themselves. In most articles, the quotes in bold are not, unfortunately, the most famous quotes. In this respect, bolding all quotes may be better than bolding seemingly random quotes because the former doesn't lead to NPOV issues. My preference is to bold only the most famous quotes. Bolding all quotes or no quotes at all is just a stylistic difference. ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:27, 18 March 2018 (UTC) last edit: 19:54, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

When I first came to Wikiquote, I noticed some articles had practically every other quote in bold. It was confusing, and hard to follow. Nothing was added by bolding the quotes. Some articles benefit from it when used in extreme moderation to highlight major quotes, but on the whole, I think the articles look better, when the quotes are not in bold. J.A.R.N.Y🗣‬ 19:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree with this: "Some articles benefit from it when used in extreme moderation to highlight major quotes". You also mentioned articles with "practically every other quote in bold", which does sound very bad in my opinion. I would rather prefer an article with no bold at all than an excess of bold everywhere. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I think it would be better to have them all in bold, than the reverse. It would be easier to draw attention to the quotes.Finister2 (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

As a regular usurer and editor of Wikiquote, I personally prefer the bolding quotes. It allows an easier way to find the actual quote amongst the sources and the description. My main problem with this is why it is being discussed now? After all these years of bolding quotes, people are saying they have a problem with all bolds? Aren't their bigger concerns in the world than changing bold to unbold for no presented reason other than change for changes sake?Finister2 (talk) 19:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC) Finister2 (talk) 19:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I and other people already said our reasons. Please either say you agree or disagree with them, but don't pretend we didn't do it.
As you know, my main problem is with inconsistency. Why Time and Last words seem to have different bolding practices? In the former, a few quotes are bold, most are not. In the latter, all are bold. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Because one is a collection of quotes about a subject, the other is a list of real and fictional words collected together, with a source and a description. The bolding is just used to draw more attention the persons' words than the description behind it.Finister2 (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
@Finister2: You said "a list of real and fictional words collected together", but ALL Wikiquote pages are collections of real and/or fictional quotes. Last words is about real quotes. Time may potentially be about both real and fictional quotes.
I really think you mean you would format thematic and non-thematic pages differently. But this would sem like a completely random and arbitrary distinction. Very confusing. Do you seriously expect everyone to keep using bold-highlighting in pages about a subject and then completely switch to 100%-bold in pages about works of fiction like The Matrix (film)? The Matrix page is one of many that already uses bold-highlihthing, an already established practice. It also uses bold for highlighting character names, which is a completely different thing.
Would you want to make all quotes in The Matrix (film) completely bold like you did with Last words in Batman media? If we copy some quotes from The Matrix (film) to Real (which is a theme page, while The Matrix film has more than a few quotes about the nature of reality), then would you use bold-highlithing for the same quote only in the theme page? That seems like a big deal. I suggest basically formatting the same everywhere as long as it's possible, with no active distinction based on the type of page. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Aside from that, it's not up to you to decide what others are allowed to discuss. It would be convenient for you if we were unable to discuss this issue, because then you would have your way without the need to justify it. Both you and me seem to have strong opinions about boldface. If boldface really were so unimportant to you, you could simply give up discussing and accept whatever happens with the pages. But actually, there's no need for that. Let's discuss it. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Daniel Carrero (talk) asked me to weigh in here. In this particular case, I don't see that bold is very useful. Since every quote is entirely bolded, it doesn't provide any information about the material, so is strictly a design decision, and IMO not a design decision that accomplishes very much. Personally, I'd be happy to see the bold face removed. OTOH, this is an area of inconsistency here, as has been pointed out. Is anyone volunteering to fix all the bolding throughout Wikiquotes? It seems unfair just to single out these pages. Ubiquity (talk) 02:21, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ubiquity: Thanks for coming. But is all the bolding throughout Wikiquote a problem? I chose specifically Last words, Fictional last words, and their subpages because they seem to be the odd ones out, where bold is used in all or most quotes. This seems out of norm. Are there many other pages where bold is used everywhere like this? If there are any other pages, then probably a bot can find them and automatically remove the boldface from all quotes. Obviously, as a result, they would become pages where no quotes are bold, which would sound excellent to me.
It seems the norm is using boldface to highlight quotes, or just having no bold quotes at all.
I volunteer to keep fixing the "Last words" pages if I'm allowed to, with the purpose of fitting in the perceived norm I described in the above paragraph. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:39, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Daniel Carrero asked me to comment. I take the additional time to add bold face only when it's in the presentation of the original quote, which happens frequently with comic books, where extra detail is given to lettering, like customized fonts for characters, though not so much in other mediums. I imagine the majority of these entries are inaccurate in their use of bold text in regards to the scripts for the stories they are from, and the bold was added by an editor later to add hat they thought was being emphasized; I think if we're relying on those personal opinions in regards for altering the text, than who's to say that every other line of dialogue delivered by Captain Kirk doesn't have a comma, an ellipsis or bold text for dramatic emphasis the way the Uncyclopedia page for Kirk is presented? Trying to transcribe an actor's emphasis in presenting the dialogue isn't something that's going to be in the scripts, similarly pauses in speeches aren't typically transcribed by news outlets using a legal transcription style, or else ellipses, em dashes and commas would be more frequent in the speeches of certain politicians. I think just the selection of the most notable quotes is highlighting these texts enough. This page's uniform use of bold text is distracting and makes it seem like all death scenes are loud and melodramatic, the way actors would traditionally project them selves to be better heard in the theater. Though format is a minor issue, if the text were in all caps needlessly or another color or font, there would be a major objection that it effected readability or looked unprofessional. So unless the script specifically says something is in bold text, I'd not add bold text just because the scene is physically or emotionally intensive or the people speaking are over a certain number of decibels; I don't believe that speech to text recorders in closed captioning use bold text even when the dialogue is being shouted, like in sportscasts when someone is about to make a goal. I'd say deleting the bold text and requiring a citation it's actually bold in the script, transcript or book is an improvement; good call Daniel Carrero. CensoredScribe (talk) 20:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
All caps and italics are used for emphasis more than bolding.Finister2 (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for coming and weighing in, @CensoRedScribe. I agree with this: "This page's uniform use of bold text is distracting and makes it seem like all death scenes are loud and melodramatic, the way actors would traditionally project them selves to be better heard in the theater."
Many of those last words seem especially bland on paper, even if in the films/comics themselves they are part of a more dramatic and meaningful context. Like this one from Last words in Batman media:
Is that a phone?
In my opinion, if everything in Last words and Fictional last words were normal (not bold), instead of completely bold, it would be a major improvement. To be clear, I'm not really sure about using bold to imitate when comics do it. Maybe we should NOT use bold even in this case. I say this because, in my experience, American comics use boldface a lot, to highlight a few arguably random words per sentence.
In Sandman #63, there's this dialogue. The boldface from the comics is unchanged.
Larissa: See this? It's a hundred dollar bill. I'm giving you half of it. If you're still here when I get back, I shall give you the other half.
Taxi driver: Okay, lady. I shall be here, unless there be guns. If there be guns, I will be gone.
This is just a normal dialogue which I probably wouldn't add in any Wikiquote page. But if we did add it, I think it would be better if completely not-bold. This way:
Larissa: See this? It's a hundred dollar bill. I'm giving you half of it. If you're still here when I get back, I shall give you the other half.
Taxi driver: Okay, lady. I shall be here, unless there be guns. If there be guns, I will be gone.
--Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:43, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

If we're focusing on the lists in comparison to pages about subjects and people, I think there's been some confusion; the pages on subject are quotes that focus on that subject, while the lists are a collection of words given by people and characters, with a source and description given, the bolding is just to put more emphasis on the actual quotes and less on the description.

Also look at these two;

  • This is my world. (Lois: "No! No!") You are my world.
  • This is my world. (Lois: "No! No!") You are my world.

Without the bolding, it can be hard to tell which words belong to the speaker, as opposed to the interrupter. Just food for though.Finister2 (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Finister2: Above, I replied to the idea of formatting separately the theme and non-theme pages.[3] This is where I called it an arbitrary distinction, to say the least. I repeat, would you use 100%-bold just in The Matrix (film) and bold-highlighting in Real for the same quote just because they are in different pages? And would you expect everyone else to do the same?
In your example, I very much prefer the non-bold version:
This is my world. (Lois: "No! No!") You are my world.
It's not hard at all to tell which words belong to the speaker, as opposed to the interrupter. The interrupter is between parenthesis and starts with "Lois:". It even has "No! No!" between quotation marks, which I find excessive. I would probably remove the quotation marks. The (Lois: "No! No!") is also completely italic. It has an excess of emphasis, not a lack of emphasis.
An alternative method might be just using multiple lines:
Clark: This is my world.
Lois: No! No!
Clark: You are my world.
--Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Here's an idea: At least de-bold all or most "Last words"[edit]

@Finister2, Abramsky, UDScott, Peter1c, SuperJew, DanielTom, Just A Regular New Yorker:

Correct me if I'm wrong: here in this discussion, so far, some people like me support using bold just to highlight things. Some people here would rather not use bold at all.

Some possible uses of bold that have been mentioned here:

  • to imitate wherever bold is actually used in the source (which appears to be common in American comics),
  • or as some sort of emphasis of sounds or screams (which seems controversial at least),
  • or to highlight famous quotes or the favorite of the author (which nobody seems to support, it was just mentioned, I guess?),
  • or to highlight witty or notable quotes

But it seems @Finister2 is currently the only person here who would like to have all "last words" quotes bolded. He/she also seems to support having a separate non-bold style for thematic pages like Time, based on what he/she said in this revision of the current discussion.

Finister2's opinion is currently a minority. I suggest, at the very least, removing bold from all quotes in Last words, Fictional last words and their subpages. I recently found Last Lines, created by Finister2, which also has all quotes bolded. I suggest de-bolding it too for the same reasons.

Aside from that, in my opinion, it's still a good idea to highlight some witty and notable quotes, very sparingly, like I did in this revision of a Batman page which got reverted by Finister2. But alternatively, I could live with just having all the quotes with normal formatting, i.e. NOT bold at all, not even for witty/notable quotes. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:49, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

It seems the ping template has a limit of merely 7 people, so here's an additional ping: @Ubiquity, CensoredScribe. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Update: I renamed Last Lines to Last lines. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:01, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree with the suggestion to de-bold articles where all the quotes are bolded. As I said earlier, there is no meaning to it, if it's done to all of them.
And in general, I can't understand the point of the bolding (meaning that an average user would even less understand), so I'm for de-bolding in general. --SuperJew (talk) 06:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

For those who suggest retaining bold face in more-or-less arbitrary fashion, how do you propose we show text which was bold when it was initially printed? —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Koavf: Thanks for coming after I asked on your talk page. I suggest removing the boldface that is found in the printed text, especially in American comics where seemingly random words are often bolded. Can someone mention any examples where it's a good idea to do the opposite, that is keeping the text bolded as in the printed source?
To repeat an example given above, here's a quote from Sandman #63:
Larissa: See this? It's a hundred dollar bill. I'm giving you half of it. If you're still here when I get back, I shall give you the other half.
Taxi driver: Okay, lady. I shall be here, unless there be guns. If there be guns, I will be gone.
If this dialogue found its way to a Wikiquote page for any reason, I would prefer de-bolding it like this:
Larissa: See this? It's a hundred dollar bill. I'm giving you half of it. If you're still here when I get back, I shall give you the other half.
Taxi driver: Okay, lady. I shall be here, unless there be guns. If there be guns, I will be gone.
--Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Bolding is actually rarely used for emphasis in the original publication of most works (which is one of the reasons it is useful on such collections of quotes as exist here), and the usually rather random use of bolding in comic book text need not be retained in quotes. This section began as a dispute specifically on the quotes for "Last words", and I must state that the proliferation of pages for "Last words in whatever" is not something I have closely followed, and I was not inclined to immediately weigh in on the subject. I have realized that there have been occasional disputes on the tendency of some people to bold ALL of the words on such pages in the past — and I tend to agree that such bolding ALL such quotes is not appropriate, and thus I have no objection to the removal of "blanket bold" practices which some have engaged in, but truthfully, the styling disputes of any of these pages are not something which have greatly concerned me. However, the drift of the discussion here on a few occasions to suggestions for the removal of all the bolding from all the pages is something I definitely object to. Selective bolding of quotes by editors is something which has been promoted since the first months of the project in 2003, and quoting some remarks I made in regard to the issue when it arose in 2006:
…bolding practices here have thus far only rarely been an issue of contention. The few occasions it has been an issue it has usually been raised by people who feel nothing should be bolded at all, but that so far has not been a dominant consensus here, and I have occasionally emphasized that, especially on the larger pages, I find the total lack of bolding to be very aesthetically unappealing and bland. I have never attempted to ignore, deny, or equivocate about the fact that to any human being, there are many quotations and statements that are inherently more notable than others, and that this is a place where we are gathering and sifting them in various ways, according to our various interests and inclinations, and I have always asserted that bolding is and should remain an option available for people who are interested in developing the presentations we are engaged in creating here on the various pages.
In the many years since 2006, the issue of selective bolding of prominent statements remains something which has only occasionally arisen, and though I have long acknowledged it is sometimes overused — especially in cases where ALL quotes on a page are in bold —  I continue to support the practice of intelligently selective bolding, as I have since the beginning. ~ Kalki·· 08:11, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
@Kalki: Thanks for coming after I asked on your talk page.
I agree with you: "bolding is and should remain an option available for people who are interested in developing the presentations we are engaged in creating here on the various pages". I also agree with this: "it is sometimes overused — especially in cases where ALL quotes on a page are in bold". It seems we have a consensus for removing all the "blanket bold". I'll do it one of these days (no rush, I guess). --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Admin nomination[edit]

Please see Wikiquote:Requests for adminship/Koavf. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Adding Cite tool to toolbar[edit]

Hi all

I've been editing Wikipedia, Wikidata and Commons for some years and starting to get into Wikiquote. I'm trying to add references to the pages I'm adding information to (in Visual Editor) but there is no Cite tool in the toolbar to generate a citation from a URL like the other Wikimedia sites I'm used to editing. I can add citations if I draft the article on Wikipedia and then move it over but it would be much easier to have the citation tool working on Wikiquote. Is it a conscious choice to not have it available? Looking around I can't see many pages with references.


--John Cummings (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

The so-called "cite" tool would be better named a "footnote" tool. What it does is place citations in footnotes at Wikipedia and other sites. Here at Wikiquote (at least en) we put the citations in the main text of the articles (as a bullet point or a section heading), not in an appendix or footnote. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:18, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

QotD not displaying, also Wikiquote in the hospital[edit]

The QotD exists: Wikiquote:Quote of the day/February 10, 2018 but is a redlink on the Main Page. See,_2018 where it is not linked to the Main Page (as of now).

Also: (koavf)TCM 01:12, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

QOTD was displaying okay for me — but it often needs a main page purge to update for everyone — I have just done that, so it should be alright now. ~ Kalki·· 01:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Non-notable Quotes[edit]

Is there a page for quotes that are not from a notable person? Many times I encounter a phrase that is profound and insightful, but I can't share it on Wikiquote because it was said by a "regular" person. If such a page doesn't exist, would it be against Wikiquote's official policy to create it? Is it appropriate to place these quotes on Anonymous? Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 00:12, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

There are many statements which are not sufficiently notable to be included here, and many potentially notable quotes of not sufficiently notable people, but apart from clearly evident spam, such quotes as might be by people or sources of insufficient notability can be generally posted to one's user pages, but there are no provisions for putting such quotes anywhere within "article space", and if they are not significantly noted as anonymous quotes elsewhere, should not be posted to the anonymous page. ~ Kalki·· 00:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Changing Title of an Article[edit]

I have been browsing the help pages, but I am still unclear on how to change the title of an article. I believe that Category:Jews should be renamed Category:Jewish People. Feel free to change it for me if you agree. Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I prefer a bot to change it as it has so many items.--Jusjih (talk) 03:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Category:Japanese poets[edit]

Risto hot sir has requested that I ask the community about what should be done regarding the numerous articles listed under Category:Japanese poets. You will know what I mean after you read a few and start to see the trend. They are all a possible copyright violation, they are all of non-notable people who don't even have a Wikipedia article, they are all from one source and they all clog up this category. You can read more about this here, here, here, and here. - Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 01:47, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Comment I'm very eager to see what the community thinks about this.--Risto hot sir (talk) 01:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC) - Only Japanese people know if these poets are notable.--Risto hot sir (talk) 02:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Comment I am not referring to the notability from a literary perspective, but rather according to the guidelines established here. We have argued about this before and I don't intend to continue the argument here. The purpose of this post was to fulfill your request and to involve other editors. Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 02:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Comment JARNY seems to have an obsession to delete these Japanese poets' sites - which hardly many people visit. Bigger problem is the longest sites, like the 3rd longest, Top Gear. Isn't that a massive copyright violation according to JARNY's principles? And all quotations are from one source.--Risto hot sir (talk) 20:37, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


AstaDev (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log). I don't know where else to go. This user is maliciously vandalizing everything. Help! Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 00:06, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind. Kalki saved the day. Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 00:08, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


The Adventures of Rugrats & Rolie Polie Olie and Penn Jillette tells Angelica Pickles - A Custom Adventure with Rugrats & Rolie Polie Olie: are they real? There are no sources online. --Superchilum (talk) 08:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

These are the closest things that I found [4] - [5] Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 17:39, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
In this case, both articles on Wikia are on test or parody wikis. Probable hoax then. hiàn 04:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2018[edit]

20:56, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Not appearing to be linked with Wikidata[edit]

Hi all. When I encountered the article Eden ahbez, I found that it appeared to not be linked with Wikidata - the "Wikidata item" tool didn't appear and it didn't appear on the Wikidata item user script I was using. I had previously purged the page several times and cleared my cache, to no avail. Any thoughts? hiàn 03:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Proposal for rapid cleanup of theme pages[edit]

Dear fellow editors, in reviewing the theme pages created by User:Nvvchar, I am finding that many of the articles contain

  • Quotations only incidentally related to the article topic
  • Quotations sourced from collections of quotations
  • Quotations from non-notable sources
  • Formatting that is not compliant with Wikiquote standards (and not consistent)
  • Numerous typographical errors

I have been flagging the pages with the Theme-cleanup template. My review of these pages is very disheartening, as the cleanup operation seems like it will take several months of full time work to complete. I am concerned that leaving all these pages in the state they are in creates a negative impression about the quality of the Wikiquote site, and would like to proceed with cleanup. As a solution, I would like to propose a rapid cleanup process:

  • quotations that are are clearly notable, correctly formatted and relevant are retained on the page
  • all other quotations are moved to the talk page for later review and correction.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks and best regards, Peter1c (talk) 19:11, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. I wouldn't remove quotes based on formatting alone, but non-notable poorly sourced quotes can and should be moved to the talk page. ~ DanielTom (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
I’ve encountered many articles that are badly formatted. Many of them are made by unregistered users. The biggest problem is that the sections are poorly made. There needs to be a mass cleanup. Some articles have the cleanup tag on for months with no one addressing it. Something needs to be done. I say, go ahead with the plan. Just A Regular New Yorker (talk) 01:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Support IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Please test pings in edit summary[edit]

1. Read this:

"You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. phab:T32750"-- meta:Tech/News/2018/10

2. Sign up at using a different user name and password (not the one you use here). You may create multiple accounts if you like, just put a note on their user pages.

3. Edit a page and put a username link in edit summary. Confirm that you are receiving the notification correctly.

4. Test at different pages and in different ways.

5. Report bugs to Phabricator.

6. Share this comment with other people on other wikis, in different languages.

--Gryllida (talk) 23:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

People from...[edit]

At the end of articles, it is common to add categories that say "People from...". Should those categories represent where the person was born, or may they even be used to represent a place where the person spent a large portion of their life? J.A.R.N.Y🗣‬ 00:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion the place where the person was raised is meaningful too, and if he/she represents the state or is a governor (like Schwarzenegger).--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
It may be meaningful, but that doesn't mean that the person is from there. J.A.R.N.Y🗣‬ 22:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
@Just A Regular New Yorker: How so? If I was born somewhere and then my family moved two weeks later and I lived somewhere else the rest of my life, is it not fair to say that I was from the latter place? —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:08, 20 March 2018 (UTC)