Talk:Intelligence
Add topicShould we just roll quotations about intellectuals and thinkers into here, or should there be a separate page? Abattoir666 (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I think Intelligence and Intellectuals (or more broadly, Intelligentsia) are really different topics; and there is already enough material here for substantial separate articles. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I agree fully. Initially I attempted to make a separate page for the concept of "intellectuals" and "thinkers", but every time I went to make it, it just redirected me to here. So I just rolled them together for the sake of convenience, until a solution could be found. I would also suggest using the above mentioned term, as it is more likely to work. My vote is for Intelligentsia. Abattoir666 (talk) 21:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- The other quotes have been moved to Intelligentsia. Abattoir666 (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with the general creation of the new page as appropriate, but believe the it should be named Intellectuals as a broader, less exclusive designation, as I believe that Intelligentsia, when used by a speaker of English, is more likely to have either a somewhat arrogantly "snobbish", or else somewhat derisive connotation to it, referring to specific groups of intellectuals, or those who account themselves such, or are taken to do so. I can understand if existing redirects brought one to intelligence, that it might take an admin to move the page to "Intellectual" or "Intellectuals" at this point, but I believe "intellectual" is generally the more commonly and broadly used term. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 20:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC) +tweaks
- Both terms are used with broad and narrow senses. I am not sure which is more disdainful to the popular creed of Anti-intellectualism, but "intelligentsia", being a class construct, has the further odium of Elitism. It is probably true that "intelligentsia" is the less familiar term, so I endorse moving the new page to "Intellectuals". ~ Ningauble (talk) 12:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with the general creation of the new page as appropriate, but believe the it should be named Intellectuals as a broader, less exclusive designation, as I believe that Intelligentsia, when used by a speaker of English, is more likely to have either a somewhat arrogantly "snobbish", or else somewhat derisive connotation to it, referring to specific groups of intellectuals, or those who account themselves such, or are taken to do so. I can understand if existing redirects brought one to intelligence, that it might take an admin to move the page to "Intellectual" or "Intellectuals" at this point, but I believe "intellectual" is generally the more commonly and broadly used term. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 20:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC) +tweaks
Intellect and Intelligence
[edit]Is there some particular reason why we have separate entries on these? To me they cover the same ground. Cheers! BD2412 T 01:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Unsourced
[edit]- Published sources should be provided before moving these back into the article
- My brain: it's my second favorite organ.
- God has placed no limits to the exercise of the intellect he has given us, on this side of the grave.
- I'm not very clever, but I am quite intelligent.
- If we listened to our intellect we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go in business because we'd be cynical: "It's gonna go wrong." Or "She's going to hurt me." Or,"I've had a couple of bad love affairs, so therefore . . ." Well, that's nonsense. You're going to miss life. You've got to jump off the cliff all the time and build your wings on the way down.
- Every mind was made for growth, for knowledge; and its nature is sinned against when it is doomed to ignorance.
- Times of general calamity and confusion have ever been productive of the greatest minds. The purest ore is produced from the hottest furnace, and the brightest thunderbolt is elicited from the darkest storm.
- Aristotle taught that the brain exists merely to cool the blood and is not involved in the process of thinking. This is true only of certain persons.
- To be able to discern that what is true is true, and that what is false is false — this is the mark and character of intelligence.
- It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer.
- If a man empties his purse into his head, no one can take it from him.
- There is nothing greater than the human mind, only through it people are able to travel on roads, which would otherwise be closed to them in their narrow realities.
- What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
- There is nobody so irritating as somebody with less intelligence and more sense than we have.
- The invention of IQ does a great disservice to creativity in education.
- No one who lives among intellectuals is likely to idealize them unduly.
- The course of every intellectual, if he pursues his journey long and unflinchingly enough, ends in the obvious, from which the non-intellectuals have never stirred.
- The two essential and important things, the indispensible things, are, first of all, intelligence, in the widest possible sense of that word, and goodwill, or in the old fashioned words, charity, love. These two things have to go hand in hand. Intelligence and knowledge without goodwill and charity are inhuman. Goodwill and charity undirected by intelligence are apt to be either impotent or misguided. The two have to go together.
- Aldous Huxley, asked “What is basic and substantial in a man’s life?”
- The difference between intelligence and education is this: intelligence will make you a good living.
- Intelligence is the road to insanity.
- The sign of intelligent people is their ability to control emotions by the application of reason.
- I think the world is run by C students.
- The intellect must reason laboriously to comprehend 'truth' but the intuition knows immediately.
- Before we work on artificial intelligence why don't we do something about natural stupidity?
- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't.
- A man cannot leave a better legacy to the world than a well-educated family.
- Rev. Thomas Scott
- Alexander the Great valued learning so highly, that he used to say he was more indebted to Aristotle for giving him knowledge than to his father Philip for life.
- Do not always assume that the other fellow has intelligence equal to yours. He may have more.
- Most people are only as intelligent as the knowledge they deem socially acceptable.
- I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up.
- Cats are smarter than dogs. You can't get eight cats to pull a sled through snow.
- Artificial Intelligence is no substitute for natural stupidity.
- People often say to me, "I understand what you are talking about intellectually, but I don't really feel it, I don't realize it," and I am apt to reply, "I wonder whether you do understand it intellectually, because if you did you would also feel it."
- The soul is the master of the chariot which is the body.The intellect is the charioteer.The mind is merely the reins.the senses are the horses and the sense objects are the normal frequenting and hunting places.
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[edit]- Eager to measure human minds, Terman plunged into intelligence testing soon after he arrived at Stanford. The original intelligence test had been designed five years earlier by French psychologist Alfred Binet as a tool to identify "slow" children needing special help. Terman and his Stanford colleagues translated Binet's test, adapted the content for U.S. schools, set new age norms and standardized the distribution of scores so that the mean score would always be 100. Terman called the new version the Stanford-Binet test.
With questions ranging from mathematical problems to vocabulary items, the Americanized test was supposed to capture "general intelligence," an innate mental capability that Terman felt was as measurable as height and weight. As a hardcore hereditarian, he believed that genetics alone dictated one's level of general intelligence. This vital constant, which he called an "original endowment," wasn't altered by education or home environment or hard work, he maintained. To denote it, he selected the term "intelligence quotient."- Mitchell Leslie, “The Vexing Legacy of Lewis Terman”, Stanford Magazine, (JULY/AUGUST 2000)
Bertrand Russell quote
[edit]I'm new here so be gentle with me, please.
The Bertrand Russell quote in the article that says "So far as I can remember, there's not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence" is a misattribution as far as I could discover. The article states that the quote was cited in A Brief History of Disbelief which aired on BBC Four.
Suspicious that it wasn't a real quote and that Russell never said it, I started doing a few searches of Google, Google Books, Google Scholar, and Google News Archives. I finally found what I believe to be the source of the quote. This might sound like a joke but the earliest instance I could find of someone saying or writing it was in the 11 April 1987 edition of the Albany Herald in their letters to the editor section (which they call "The People's Forum"). The letter writer was named Bert Russell.
Here's a link: [1]https://books.google.ca/books?id=MMxEAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA3&dq=%22not+one+word+in+the+Gospels+in+praise+of+intelligence%22&article_id=4539,1639257&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDotms9qCCAxVFAjQIHT-RDa8Q6AF6BAgJEAI#v=onepage&q=%22not%20one%20word%20in%20the%20Gospels%20in%20praise%20of%20intelligence%22&f=false