Talk:Love

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Love page.


Tasks you can do
√ * Find sources for quotes which are listed here >> /Unsourced quotes <<.
√ * Clean up, to conform to a higher standard of article quality.

Unsourced quotes index page created[edit]

Please move unsourced quotes from page Love to page Talk:Love/Unsourced quotes. This way we'll have an index page to refer to for all unsourced quotes. And it won't clog up future discussion on this talk page. :) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:37, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't have any more time for dealing with this attempt to make restorations of quotes to the page more difficult — those quotes are not likely to be found for further research by most people on some sub-archive — and it is STANDARD practice to place such quotes on the talk pages — NOT some further sub-pages. I MUST be leaving now, as I am already running late on a few things — I might make further comments within a few hours — if I am not blocked again for getting into an edit dispute with a person who has regularly exhibited an intolerance of opinions of opposition to his/her will being expressed or preserved or even permitted. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 23:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Good point Kalki, the index page for unsourced quotes should be easy to find. Therefore, I've placed it at the top of this talk page. Also, I went ahead and bolded the link to it, to draw more attention to it. This way, it'll both be easy to find, and not clog up this talk page with history. :) Thanks again, Kalki, for the great idea! Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree with this solution. The unsourced quotes are found easily enough for those of us who will be working on them, and the talk page is cleared up for other matters to be raised without getting drowned out. BD2412 T 03:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I can accept this measure as it stands, for this page, as there is a notable link on the article itself which was updated by a conscientious editor, but certainly do not wish it to become standard procedure on all other pages — though it might be used on a few of the lengthier ones — but only with a prominent link provided on the article page itself, as it is here. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 21:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, BD2412 (talk · contributions), your rationale is a sound one. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Image overuse??[edit]

This page had hundreds of images on it - including several repeat uses of the same images. Doesn't this seem a bit much? Anyone agree or disagree? I raised a similar question at Talk:Truth. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I agree. To my mind, the purpose of pictures in these pages should be to highlight (make easier to detect) the very best (or the most quoted / best known) quotes in the article, this holding true particularly for long pages. Having walls of pictures defeats this purpose. (Not to mention the page load time issue.) ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
I trimmed down the pictures. Anyone who wants to trimm them furhter down is encouraged to do so. --P3Y229 (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing a Unsourced Quote[edit]

I am making this section since I checked the history of this page and the Unsourced page and neither seem to have dealt with the issue of where to cite the evidence provided to prove that a quote came from a source. In any case, I will list the evidence that I consider to be decisive and I will make the change which should be reverted if there is an issue. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Robert Heinlein[edit]

Quote: "Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition. The immature mind often mistakes one for the other, or assumes that the greater the love, the greater the jealousy — in fact, they are almost incompatible; one emotion hardly leaves room for the other." Other details: Robert Heinlein in Stranger In A Strange Land

The book is already listed on the Unsourced List. Checking the book with a search using Ctrl+F reveals that it is the thirteenth quote in the current revision in the section titled "His Scandalous Career." It notes that the quote appears in the First Edition of Stranger in a Strange Land. Using Google Books to search for the quote comes up with a match on Page 363. Clicking on the page and looking towards the bottom of the page around the seventeenth paragraph shows the quote in question. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Unrequited love and splitting[edit]

This page is huge, and that's understandable. However, wouldn't we do a good service if we split out some crucial subthemes? An obvious one would be unrequited love. I'd start with a quotation by Walter Scott and one by Umberto Eco, but there's plenty of course. --Nemo 23:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I think that is an excellent idea. BD2412 T 20:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Bible section[edit]

The Bible is composed of multiple books with different histories and different authors. Not all denominations agree on which books are part of the canon. For example: For Jews the New Testament is not part of the Bible. I don't see the justification for putting these quotations from different authors under one heading. If the page is alphabetized by author, why make an exception for books that are canonized by certain denominations? The Bible is the medium in which these books come down to us, not their author. ~ Peter1c (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Because makes easier for the reader to search Bible quotes about love if that has their own section, instead of have to search among the many quotes here. About denominations, the section can have subsections if needed. Rupert Loup 23:21, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Rupert Loup, thanks for explaining the reasoning. The thing is, the authors who wrote these books did not know or intend them to be collected in this collection called the Bible. This grouping came later in history, and was not agreed upon by the authors of these texts. You say we can make subheadings, but this does not do justice to denominations that do not see texts included under the Bible heading as part of their Bible. For example, there are denominations that see only the Gospel of John as part of the Biblical canon, and not the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke. Others see only the Gospel of Luke as canonical. Is it just to these denominations to include books they do not consider Biblical under the Bible heading? I understand the argument about convenience for readers looking for Biblical quotes on love, but grouping all the texts in a section at the end could also be interpreted as segregating these texts out of the discourse. I propose to address this convenience issue by creating a separate page Bible quotes about love with copies of quotes you admirably collected and organized. When I proposed to organize some pages chronologically, Kalki pointed out rightly that this makes the pages harder to maintain, and it is problematic both aesthetically and administratively to have different theme pages organized according to different principles. My impression is that WQ has been settling into an agreed upon rule that theme pages are organized alphabetically. ~ Peter1c (talk) 14:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

If it helps the readers I don't have objections. In my opinion, trying to make content easily accessible should be a priority in WQ. Rupert Loup 15:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)