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Retarget redirect?[edit]

Rather than redirecting from article space to a category, shouldn't this redirect to the article Great Britain? ~ Ningauble 15:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Political bias[edit]

Upon reading this page I can't help but feel that there is an abundance of quotes by Thatcher and other right wing figures, including Enoch Powell. I feel that this level of bias creates a false impression of British history and by bringing people like Powell to attention, brings disrespect to the country. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marlowe123 (talkcontribs) 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@Marlowe123: Do you know of some quotes to balance this article? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not trim instead of removing?[edit]

Why not trim instead of removing? Ottawahitech (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

recent addition -- is it appropriate?[edit]

Does this edit belong in this article? I do not see the word "United Kingdom" anywhere. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 19:07, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coningsby: Not about the UK?[edit]

  • Dear @Coningsby‎
    As you know, twice today, you have removed the following quotation. When you removed a longer version earlier today, I took a look wondering what part of the quote was 'not about the UK'. I removed the part that it seemed some could argue was not about the United Kingdom (UK), leaving only that which was very clearly about the UK & reposted it. According to the historical record of the Iraq War, the United Kingdom (U.K) led by Tony Blair played a significant role, the UK's participation in that war is mentioned seven times in the text about it on the wikipedia page Iraq War, leaving no questions about their involvement & support of that invasion/occupation. To say that the quote is not about the UK, is simply not a factual statement and cannot be argued.
    I can understand people being terribly ashamed of the shameful way Tony Blair & the UK government worked with the U.S. government, in that most dreadful, arguably illegal Iraq Invasion/occupation, and how some good people might wish to have the horrible facts concerning their nations actions/involvement removed from the records, but that would be very dishonest. Many believe that only the truth will eventually set us free from tyranny, but only if/when it is not hidden.
    With all due respect Coningsby, unless a good argument is presented here by you or others within 30 days, I propose that the following quote be re-inserted. Does that seem fair and reasonable to you? Why or why not? Fellow wikiquote editors/admins: what do you think about this?!
    Thank you & best wishes to all. Alphabravo2022 (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The quote is about Tony Blair and the Iraq War, not about the UK. Wikiquote pages on countries include quotes that give information about the country. This quote doesn't. That is why it should not be included.--Coningsby (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removed + proposing to reinsert/repost[edit]

  • UK’s Prime Minister Tony Blair should hang with the U.S. gang, but who is calling for this? How much longer will the necessary prosecutions wait? Till after these international war-criminals have all gone honored to their graves? Although the International Criminal Court considered and dismissed possible criminal charges against Tony Blair’s UK Government regarding the invasion and military occupation of Iraq, the actual crime, of invading and militarily occupying a country which had posed no threat to the national security of the invader, was ignored, and the conclusion was that “the situation did not appear to meet the required threshold of the Statute” (which was only “Willful killing or inhuman treatment of civilians” and which ignored the real crime, which was “aggressive war” or “the crime of aggression” — the crime for which Nazis had been hanged at Nuremberg).

Removed & reinserted, after editing/reducing[edit]

  • UK’s Prime Minister Tony Blair should hang with the U.S. gang, but who is calling for this? How much longer will the necessary prosecutions wait? Till after these international war-criminals have all gone honored to their graves?
    Although the International Criminal Court considered and dismissed possible criminal charges against Tony Blair’s UK Government regarding the invasion and military occupation of Iraq, the actual crime, of invading and militarily occupying a country which had posed no threat to the national security of the invader, was ignored, and the conclusion was that “the situation did not appear to meet the required threshold of the Statute” (which was only “Willful killing or inhuman treatment of civilians” and which ignored the real crime, which was “aggressive war” or “the crime of aggression” — the crime for which Nazis had been hanged at Nuremberg)... We... now have internationally a lawless world (or “World Order”) in which “Might makes right,” and in which there is really no effective international law, at all. This is merely gangster “law,” ruling on an international level. It is what Hitler and his Axis of fascist imperialists had imposed upon the world... this invasion and subsequent military occupation constitutes the very epitome of “aggressive war” — unwarranted and illegal international aggression.

Record[edit]

  • curprev 16:44, 6 April 2022‎ Coningsby talk contribs‎ 29,051 bytes −1,145‎ Quote isn't about the UK undothank Tag: Undo
  • curprev 15:08, 6 April 2022‎ Alphabravo2022 talk contribs‎ 30,196 bytes +1,145‎ →‎W: Although the International Criminal Court considered and dismissed possible criminal charges against Tony Blair’s UK Government regarding the invasion and military occupation of Iraq, the actual crime, of invading and militarily occupying a country which had posed no threat to the national security of the invader, was ignored. undo Tag: Reverted
  • curprev 14:10, 6 April 2022‎ Coningsby talk contribs‎ 29,051 bytes −2,253‎ →‎Z: Removed quotes about the Blair and the Iraq War which aren't about the UK undothank