User talk:Sweet Pinkette~enwikiquote
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Welcome[edit]
Hi Sweet Pinkette~enwikiquote. Welcome to English Wikiquote.
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Enjoy! —LrdChaos (talk) 21:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you so much. I wish I would have gotten this welcome on Wikipedia. It would have saved me a lot of time. Thanks again Sweet Pinkette 02:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Television quotation marks[edit]
The television page is a theme page. Theme pages have a different layout from other Wikiquote people pages. Please feel free to read for yourself. You may also want to create an Archive for your User talk page. Sweet Pinkette 06:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, that's where that came from! I'm afraid you've run afoul of one of many problems we have at Wikiquote due to a shortage of regular editors. Despite the fact that Wikiquote:Guide to layout, clearly marked as an unfinished draft, is included in our standard {{welcome}} message, it isn't as current or well-maintained as Wikiquote:Templates and its subpages, which have been the de facto formatting guidelines for all genre pages for nearly two years. The discrepancies between the Guide and actual practice are obviously a serious oversight. Thank you for calling attention to this.
- Please review Wikiquote:Templates and Wikiquote:Templates/Themes for the most current formatting guidelines. Meanwhile, I will see what we can do about bringing the two sets of guidelines into sync. I apologize for the confusion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- By the way, I do have a set of user-talk archives, with an "ARCHIVE INDEX" at the top of my user talk page, providing direct links to every discussion since I first came here in 2004. I frequently use it to consult old discussions. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey there. Thanks for your timely response. Early this morning I did in fact come across a page that contained a similar template, but I thought it was no longer in effect since the Template page that is currently in its editing stages was newer, ostensibly. Although I do like the former template better I can see how the latter is more consistent with Wikiquote guidelines and pages. Thanks for setting me straight. By the by, I have a question about some quotes in bold text featured in some Wikiquote pages. Is there are any particular reason for that? And is that standard practice? It isn't very pleasing to the eye and I've seen a few pages like this (see Marilyn Monroe), but I didn't want to act on them because I felt I should make sure first. Thanks a billion, have a great week! ☺ ~Sweet Pinkette, 16:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Bolding selected quotes based on users' preferences has been around since the early days of Wikiquote. I'm not particularly happy about it myself, but it's fairly popular and not likely to change in the foreseeable future. The most recent substantive discussion on this issue that I recall can be found at Wikiquote:Village pump archive 9#MoS/NPOV: quotes in bold?. One problem this creates is that some editors believe our style is to bold all quotes, but not bold source and context information. Any time you see that, you are invited to be bold yourself and "reset" the formatting so that no quotes are bolded. It's too easy to get carried away with this POV (IMHO) styling. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I personally feel it's a bad idea, especially since, as Wikiquote grows, there will probably be more problems arising from the neutrality of certain quotes. I mean neutrality is already the case with the Television page and it only has one bolded quote. I can't imagine why it's allowed, especially since the templates already call for organization, alphabetization, chronologication (that's probably not a word but you know what I mean). The whole thing seems a little folly to me. I guess we'll see what happens. Anyway, thanks for everything. I'll stop bugging you now. ^__^ ~Sweet Pinkette, 2:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Signature formatting causing talk page problems[edit]
I just noticed that the signatures in your talk page postings from around 13 March are creating formatting problems for the pages you've posted to. When you sign a post, the following HTML appears on the page:
<b><font size="4">☺</font></b> ~<font face="Comic Sans" size="2"><b><font color="Pink">[[User:Sweet Pinkette|Sweet Pinkette]]</font></b>
I've marked in red the fact that surrounding your username you have two font elements, but only one closing font tag. Since that last tag closed the color but not the style and size, everything that follows one of your posts is rendered in size 2 ("small") and presumably in "Comic Sans" (although I don't see that in my browser). You can see an example of this on a previous version of my talk page (after your second post under "Television quotation marks"). I see that it is currently occurring on your talk page as well.
I would recommend you use the following instead:
'''<font size="4">☺</font>''' ~<font face="Comic Sans" size="2" color="Pink">'''[[User:Sweet Pinkette|Sweet Pinkette]]'''</font>
or better yet, the HTML 4.0 / XHTML version:
<span style="font-size: large">☺</span> ~<span style="font: 'Comic Sans' small" color="pink">'''[[User:Sweet Pinkette|Sweet Pinkette]]'''</span>
Note that I replaced the HTML bold tags with wiki markup. I said I would recommend this, except that my experiments with this signature seem to lose the "Pink" color, and don't respond either to hexadecimal color codes or the use of the HTML 4.0 standard "Fuschia" instead of "Pink". This may be because the style for wiki links overrides the surrounding font or span tags, although I don't understand why it doesn't do this for your use of two separate font elements. This is the kind of problem one faces when one tries to use fancy HTML markup in one's signature. One cannot expect it to look the way it's intended except solely in one's own browser, because of the incredibly variable implementations of pre-XHTML element rendering. (Even XHTML implementation and anything but the most common typefaces can be iffy. In Firefox 2 on my system, I don't even see the "Comic Sans" face, despite having it installed on my system and working for some sites and pages.)
In any case, I most definitely do recommend that, if you are going to experiment with fancy markup in your signature, you do some sandbox testing first, including text before and after your signature, to avoid the basic problem of unmatched tags that can alter an entire talk page following your post. I also ask that you check your signed posts from 13 March onward and correct any other signatures that are currently messing up those pages.
Let me know if you have any questions about this. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your account will be renamed[edit]
Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Sweet Pinkette. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Sweet Pinkette~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,
Keegan Peterzell
Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
Renamed[edit]
This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: Special:GlobalRenameRequest. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)