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Who said “We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give”? Who attributed it to Winston Churchill?[edit]

We are assured by http://www.winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotations/135-quotes-falsely-attributed that this was not Winston Churchill. I have to admit it is not even all that interesting or well-constructed, just one of those warm and woolly things company communications departments seem to love. But since brainyquote.com (which appears to me a drivel dispenser) attributes it to him, it would be nice to have it refuted – or do they just make them up themselves there? --PJTraill (talk) 12:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Any website that collects unsourced quotations is bound to be unreliable. If you look at Wikiquote's Winston Churchill page, you'll find this quote already listed under the "Misattributed" section. It was (mis)attributed to Churchill in Never Give in: The Extraordinary Character of Winston Churchill (1995) by Stephen Mansfield, p. 224, and in many later publications, but the phrase itself goes back at least to the 1940s. ~ DanielTom (talk) 12:34, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Is KJIVA appropriate for inclusion?[edit]

I've come here via enWP, where there's a whole walled garden concerning this rapper (all articles are currently at AFD). I don't know what Wikiquote's inclusion criteria are, but perhaps somebody can have a look at KJIVA. (And I actually also don't know either whether this is the right place to ask this question, so apologies if this is the wrong venue). Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 16:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello Kitty. Not really the right place to ask, but that's okay. I am already watching the Wikipedia discussions on this person[1] and related article farm[2][3][4][5][6][7] and ancillary pages[8][9][10]. Depending on the outcome, I will either speedy-delete it, or propose routine deletion, or if the outcome is indecisive, take it to a vote here. It looks like an open-and-shut case to me, but it is usually best to wait for matters to settle at Wikipedia first, in order to avoid duplicating (and protracting) the arguments. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:06, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks! For my education, what would have been the right place to go? (I don't often come here, but might be useful in future). With all those articles in this farm, you really need all your 7 eyes! ;-) --Randykitty (talk) 17:50, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Randykitty, in more than eight years at Wikiquote this is the first time anyone remarked on my pseudonymsake. This board is nominally used to research the origins of quotations. The Village pump is more suited to discussing general wiki affairs. (As a smaller community, we have a lot less special-purpose discussion boards than Wikipedia does.) ~ Ningauble (talk) 21:47, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svgY Deleted. Thanks for staying on top of this Randykitty. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

A great American Indian chief said...[edit]

What American Indian chief said "You are a nation of liars and thieves" ? —This unsigned comment is by 76.218.114.235 (talkcontribs) .

Gen. Douglas MacArthur quote[edit]

The following quote has been attributed to Gen. Douglas MacArthur. I need someone to confirm or deny it.

Quote. "No one who has experienced war has escaped unscathed. The scars are more apparent for some than others. They are reminders of the precious price that is paid for Freedom."

Please confirm or deny it.

Many thanks.

Mike

When "duty" becomes "joy"[edit]

What is the title/who is the author of the poem that concludes with the thought: "..when my duty becomes my joy"  ?

Looking for a quote confirmation, "The best government is the worst government"[edit]

Hello :)

Many years ago, I heard passing reference to an alleged quote by the Chamber of Commerce (National) in the 1920's or thereabouts.

Supposedly, someone representing them said "The best government is the worst government" or words to that effect. The intimation being that they wanted a weak federal government that would allow them to act without regulation.

I have not been able to verify this quote in the years since and I am wondering if anyone is able to debunk this. (or bunk it, as the case may be :)

Any search I have done is stymied by innumerable quotes by Lincoln and Churchill.

Thank you for any help!

Edit: Also, if this is not the correct place to post this kind of question could you please note the correct forum?—This unsigned comment is by 24.34.98.242 (talkcontribs) .

I can't find that exact quote. "The best government is that which governs least" (or "That government is best which governs least"—from the opening sentence of Henry David Thoreau's "Resistance to Civil Government"—and "The best government is the one that governs [the] least") are popular variants. I'm also reminded of Bertrand Russell's remark in The Problem of China: "Nine-tenths of the activities of a modern Government are harmful; therefore the worse they are performed, the better." ~ DanielTom (talk) 09:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

---OP - Yeah, I had found those and similar quotes, but the one I was looking for was purportedly by the US Chamber of Commerce

Correction of name in title of Wikiquote page[edit]

I just created a new Wikiquote page on John Diamond (doctor) but I see that the title of the Wikiquote page has the name Diamond with a lower case d rather than with a capital D. How can a correction be made?--Yachef (talk) 11:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yachef. See Help:How to move a page. (I fixed it for you.) ~ DanielTom (talk) 12:30, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Udonis Haslem[edit]

I searched for free use quotes but found none. any help? thank you. --Quoteofzod (talk) 03:03, 2 May 2018 (UTC)