User talk:HouseOfChange

Does WQ need to become more NPOV?

Hi HouseOfChange,

I see you are very intent on making WQ more NPOV. I think this is commendable, just wondering if the way you are going about it is going to produce the desired effect.

WQ just as ENWP has far more contributors from the United States than contributors from other countries. How do I know that? I must admit I have come to this conclusion through my own personal experience (I wish there was a better way to establish this). As an example, I added a small quote today to France because their presidental elections will take place very soon. Since the quote I added referred to their presidential debate, I did a search on the term which is mentioned on quite a few pages (not sure how many?), but in my limited search I discovered that the term is always used in reference to an election in the United States.

I don’t want to turn this post into a tldr, just wondering if you see somethiing different than what I am seeing. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:47, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Ottawhitech: for asking about my goal. It is not at all as big as changing WQ. Instead, I stumbled across some articles that had been heavily edited by one person over several years, so with Antandrus I made a public list of them at WQ:AN and started trying to go through those articles, putting italics on the ones I already looked at and (I hope) improved.

Today I am laid low by COVID so not doing much. (I'm all vaccinated and boosted so it just feels like a bad cold, but I am very tired.)

Maybe the short answer is I am trying like everybody else to improve one article at a time, but a lot of the articles on my list have the same kinds of not-following-WQ-policy problems.

The work I like better to do here is adding interesting quotations by notable people that we don't have yet. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to heat about your COVID situation. I suspect this disease is afflicting many of our wmf-troops. I think something like 25% of the American population has had it at some point, some asymptomatically.

As far as Antandrus is concerned I have been trying for a while to get them to get into the trenches to do some manual labour. Maybe I'll succeed one day. Just kidding. Get well soon, Ottawahitech (talk) 23:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Ha ha. :) (Doesn't bother me, don't worry.) I consider my anti-troll, anti-POV, anti-stalker, and anti-vandalism work to be "digging in the trenches", but maybe to others this kind of work is unimportant? Or maybe not; I never know what other people are thinking. Adding quotes is fun, and I'd much rather do that, if only the deranged and obsessed would go away. But they won't because it is not in the nature of human derangement and obsession to go away.

HoC, hope you feel better soon. Covid has hit hard where I live (central California) and I know a lot of people who have had it. I wish it would go away. I miss going to concerts and things. Antandrus (talk) 23:45, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Pages to create

Here are the pages I created at Wikiquote:

• Mae Jemison: Black woman engineer, physician, astronaut
• Anna Reid: Journalist and author with focus on Eastern Europe
• Maria Ressa: Journalist co-winner of 2021 Nobel Peace Prize
• Robert D. Bullard: Black professor and activist known as "father of environmental justice"

Here are some pages I would like to create for notable people whose words I've admired:

• Naomi Novik: Author and fan-fiction activist
• Linda Buck: Scientist co-winner of 2004 Nobel Prize in Medicine
• Ig Nobel Prize

Those are some goals for the future. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi HouseOfChange, I see that one of the 5 pages you have created on WQ is Ig Nobel Prize. Are you aware this page may be offensive to readers who speak Igbo? Just curious. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

The name is is a pun on the English word "ignoble." If the prize (started in 1991) and Wikipedia article about it (started in 2001) created no offense to speakers of Igbo, I don't see why this Wikiquote page would be controversial. Cheers. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:01, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@HouseOfChange: Just to let you know I have posted a note at Talk:Ig Nobel Prize#Discussion with page creator to see how readers of of that page view your comment above. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:29, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Just a thought

While there is indeed a lot of off-topic dross in Wikiquote, you are being quite agressive in removing quotes that could arguably be included somewhere. I would suggest that rather than merely deleting them, you should move them to the respective talk pages of the pages you are working on (unless they are clearly by speakers with no plausible claim to notability). Some of them, readers might decide to keep, perhaps trimmed to a degree. Some of them might fit well into other pages. BD2412 T 07:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

That is a great idea! Thanks @BD2412: for the suggestion! It will preserve the material for other editors to give an opinion while making the article itself more readable/useful to readers. I created the talk page archive for several articles where I had previously removed many quotes: Mutual assured destruction, Big lie, Honduras, War crimes, and Hysteria. I also did the same on a few sock-linked articles I first looked at today, but in none of these were the removals so extensive: Cowardice, Colonialism, and Nuclear power. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Postscript. I did not create quote-page archives for ALL of the articles I had edited before getting this message on April 26, although I did create such archives for some. Going forward, however, I did create talk-page archives whenever I did extensive editing. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Admin accountability poll

Admin accountability poll is open, vote here. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 10:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

RfC

I am looking for your opinion on this discussion. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 18:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle: I have no opinion about it. The same is true for the administrator review discussion. I admire your energy and enthusiasm; my energy level is low enough that I save it for matters where I think I can make contributions of some value. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 18:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

QOTD

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I hope this comment is helpful to you. ~ ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 14:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

fyi

Hi HouseOfChange: fyi Talk:Antisemitism#removed quote Ottawahitech (talk) 03:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ottowahitech: Thanks for the heads up. That talk page is on my watchlist. IMO that quotation I removed in 2022 falls outside WQ guidelines of notable/quotable, but a consensus opinion otherwise would be decisive. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)