Wikiquote:Bots/Archives/2012

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Granted bot flags[edit]

User:Idioma-bot[edit]

I request bot flag to my bot :

  • Operator: Hugo.arg
  • Purpose: interwiki
  • Script used : Pywikipedia
  • Already has the bot flag on : a global bot

Thank you. --Hugo.arg 08:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

  • The bot account does not have e-mail enabled. ~ Ningauble 15:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks for enabling this.[1] ~ Ningauble 16:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I have mixed feelings about this bot. It appears to have operated responsibly for over four years, but I have misgivings about the follow-up on this request. It took five months to react to the observation about e-mail above (just an observation: e-mail access is not strictly required by policy), and in the meantime a duplicate request was posted.[2]

    (I should also say that I am disappointed by the lack of timely Bureaucrat response to requests here.) ~ Ningauble 16:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

    Redaction: this was put into policy in 2007. ~ Ningauble 17:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry because of that, I didn't noticed I already have filled request. I mostly worked with my bot only on Wikipedias but at recent time I saw that interwikies aren't well maintained at wikiquote projects so I could help here. Hugo.arg 19:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Should I ask at Metawiki for a bot flag as you say you haven't active bureaucrats? Hugo.arg (talk) 09:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
    I did not say that. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
    The Bot policy at Meta does not provide for this. (See the last paragraph under "Community consensus".) ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'd blocked the bot for operating prior to any sort of community approval. I'll defer to Ningauble (talk · contributions) on this one. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 21:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Support granting the local bot flag and unblocking this interwiki bot run by an experienced bot operator. Snowolf How can I help? 01:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. Notwithstanding technical violation of the e-mail requirement (since cured), the operator has been reachable via home wiki, and has operated a non-flagged bot here for several years without problems. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

KamikazeBot[edit]

  • Botmaster: Karol007
  • Bot's name: User:KamikazeBot
  • List of bot flags: full list (global bot with about +78 bot flags)
  • Purpose: interwiki
  • Technical details: pywikipediabot, latest versions

Best regards, Karol007 12:16, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Support it seems to be working well on many other wikis.--Collingwood (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Granted ~ UDScott (talk) 18:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Duplicate requests[edit]

User:Idioma-bot[edit]

I request bot flag to my bot

  • Operator: Hugo.arg
  • Purpose: Interwiki
  • Script used : Pywikipedia
  • Already has the bot flag on : global bot

Thank you. Hugo.arg 19:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Duplicate request. See request dated 2 March 2011. ~ Ningauble 15:50, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

User:KamikazeBot[edit]

I request bot flag to my bot

  • Operator: Karol007
  • Purpose: only interwiki links. The bot is running in automatic mode.
  • Script used : pywikipedia framework, standard script interwiki.py
  • Already has the bot flag on : global bot and about 54 bot flag in other Wikimedia projects
  • Note : Sorry that, I ran without the bot flag.

Thank you. --Karol007 12:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Where J is after M? JackPotte 11:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
    • It's very strange, I asked in IRC pywikipediabot about it, and I have hope, that we will found reason. Karol007 16:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose, irresponsible use by bot op, bot was used prior to local site approval. -- Cirt (talk) 18:22, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Anyway, thank you. Karol007 02:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Duplicate. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Rejected bot flags[edit]

User:EleferenBot[edit]

I request bot flag to my bot

Thank you. --Eleferen 06:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Bot was blocked for implementing standards without approval and against local community input. -- Cirt (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
    Please cite the local community input. It seems to me that, by removing Simple English interwiki links, EleferenBot was implementing a decision that was approved by consensus at Meta and that has not been contradicted by this local community. The linked pages display a prominent sitenotice[3] linking to the decision to close the project. ~ Ningauble 17:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
    The bot was not approved on this project, and went ahead anyway removing existing links to other pages. -- Cirt (talk) 19:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
    See also [4]. The inquiry has been submitted on March, 2nd. From the moment of inquiry giving has passed more than 2 weeks. --Eleferen 07:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I do not see how this escapes the fact that the bot operator used the bot, without approval. -- Cirt (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Comment: As far as I understand, bot operators need to approve for flagging, not for operating itself. I heard some wikis require approval for operation ahead of the real operation too, but it has not been our way for years. Cheers, --Aphaia 10:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
No, I am pretty sure that most all wikis do not permit unapproved bots to operate. That would be very problematic if they did - it would mean unapproved users would be allowed to make very fast edits. -- Cirt (talk) 18:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
You might be right and they would do so, but it is not our own rules. I as a bureaucrat of this project have understood our policy so for years, and there has been no project. And as far as I understand, our rules doesn't demand such pre-approval. If you insist, so please cite from this page. I'd esteem your objection but I'd point out it isn't based on our current project policy. --Aphaia 13:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
You are incorrect. Please see point three under Identification on this page. -- Cirt (talk) 14:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
While I agree that Wikipedia's policy, not operating a bot beyond minimal testing until it is granted a flag, is a good one, such is not an explicit policy here. EleferenBot did comply with the identification requirement by tagging with the {{bot}} template on March 2. ~ Ningauble 16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Point 3 above says: Every bot should be listed on Category:Bots before it begins to be run. They are also listed on this page. -- Note that second part. They are also listed on this page. That was not done, in this case, prior to the bot's operation. -- Cirt (talk) 21:17, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

::::::::Thanks, Cirt, for pointing it out. I agree it violated the clause 3 at the beginning. From March 3 it was however improved and it is now under the category, or not? So what is our current problem? --Aphaia 17:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The current problem is that it reflects poorly on the mismanagement by the bot operator. -- Cirt (talk) 20:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment: I am not favorably impressed by a bot operator who appears to be running scripts mechanically without giving much attention to what the script is doing. After being advised February 20 that there was no point running the bot on Simple, the user went ahead and ran a script adding Simple links here, then turned around and ran an updated script removing them. In discussion at the Village pump about whether we should have these links, EleferenBot simply observed what the script's list was doing, without addressing the question of whether it was the right thing to do.

I would prefer that bot operators be more mindful of what they are doing, and why, rather than blindly running a script without engaging the affected community. ~ Ningauble 16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

That is indeed a disturbing behavior pattern, and not indicative of a conscientious bot operator. -- Cirt (talk) 21:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I have not been assured that the project simple-wq will be removed. Only after modification of a code of a bot, the simple-interwiki been removed. --Eleferen 09:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The operator appears not to have recognized that multiple bots reverting each other was a problem that needed to be stopped because it was disruptive, nor to have recognized that automated edits are not appropriate in cases of known controversy. Bot operators must not themselves behave like robots, doing whatever some script tells them to do. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Declined, per above discussion. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

User:EdoBot[edit]

Thanks. - EdoDodo talk 09:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Email reachability: valid
  • Seems not to hurt, could you please run your bot for test? I'm a bit concerned with lack of community input. If no objection comes in days, I'm approving this request. --Aphaia 07:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
    • There has been no response to the above request for testing, nor any other activity on this wiki, for almost a year. ~ Ningauble 15:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Wikiquote:Bots/Archives/2012/Stale Snowolf How can I help? 01:09, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Nonresponsive: being communicative is half the policy. Inactive: no activity on operator's SUL account since November 2011.[5] ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Declined, per above discussion. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

EdwardsBot[edit]

I request a bot flag for my bot.

  • Operator: MZMcBride
  • Purpose: m:Global message delivery
  • Script used: Python script, using the wikitools framework
  • Already has the bot flag on: en.wikipedia.org, nl.wikipedia.org, pl.wikipedia.org, strategy.wikimedia.org
  • Note : (if any)

Thank you. --MZMcBride 21:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Has anyone at Wikiquote expressed interest in subscribing to this Global message delivery system? ~ Ningauble 15:27, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Wikiquote:Bots/Archives/2012/Stale Snowolf How can I help? 01:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Only one person has expressed interest in the service this bot offers (by using it here), and its use has included indiscriminately broadcasting messages to inactive accounts. A bot operator needs to be responsible for its actions, not just those who subscribe to its services. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Decline, per above discussion. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

User:FiriBot[edit]

I request bot flag to my bot

  • Operator: Firilacroco
  • Purpose: Interwiki links
  • Script used : Pywikipedia
  • Already has the bot flag on : [6] and Global Bot
  • Note : I ran without flag. Most of wikiquote projects have the global bot policy.

Thank you. --Firilacroco 20:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

OK if you create your two profiles here. JackPotte 11:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Bots/Archives/2012/Stale Snowolf How can I help? 01:05, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Nonresponsive and noncompliant with policies for identification and communication. ~ Ningauble (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Declined, per above discussion. ~ UDScott (talk) 19:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)