User talk:John-1107~enwikiquote

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Welcome[edit]

Hello, John-1107~enwikiquote, and welcome to the English Wikiquote, a free compendium of quotations written collaboratively by people just like you!

To ask for advice or assistance feel free to drop by the Village Pump or ask on my talk page. Happy editing! And again, welcome!

By the way, I am sorry to see you made a redirect to your user page on main namespace. Wikiquote is not a free hosting service, nor a quote of ordinary internet users. We deleted many articles from Web forum. I deleted your making redirect. I hope you will understand it and take it not wrong. I expect you will be a good part of this community and enjoy being here.

Again welcome! --Aphaia 23:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hello, John-1107, please read my message the above again. It is not a good manner to have an article of user's quotes nor a redirect to it on main namespace. Your understanding will be appreciated. And I hope you esteem our policy and request its deletion by yourself. Thanks. --Aphaia 00:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

John-1107, I want to reinforce Aphaia's polite admonitions, because your actions are taking attention away from more pressing administrative matters. Wikiquote policy is to restrict personal quotes and quotes about unfamous people to user pages. If you recreate a redirect in the main articlespace to your user page again, I will block your account for 48 hours. Further attempts may result in your account being permanently blocked. If you feel this is unreasonable, you can bring this up to the Wikiquote community at Wikiquote:Village pump. If you are blocked at the time, you may do so after the block expires. You can also post a message to my talk page to discuss this if you wish. — Jeff Q (talk) 09:23, 3 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Notability[edit]

The quotes at my page are my quotes about my friends from school. They're not unfamous people. I know them very well and they knew i'm famous. Besides, i show these quotes to my friends at school. What's wrong with that?--John V 23:14, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps we have a misunderstanding here. The fact that anyone can edit nearly anything on a wiki project does not mean that any content is acceptable by that project. Every wiki project has a purpose and a set of guidelines for content. It is incumbent upon the participants to follow those guidelines in order to promote the purpose of the project. Wikiquote's purpose is to collect quotes from people and works that are notable in a worldwide context.

"Famous" and "notable" are relative terms, and are only shorthand for the more specific concept of notability in a worldwide audience. I have some measure of fame myself within my industry, which extends well beyond the limits of nearly any high school, but I do not qualify for the adjective "famous" in a worldwide compendium of quotations (as impressed as I might be by my own profundity). Wikiquote is such a compendium and exists to collect quotations from people who are much more notable than you or I (or your friends), people who have published books, given well-publicized speeches, performed nationally or internationally-known works, etc. The word "famous" is usually used for these purposes, not the one you espouse, so it's a bit disingenuous to claim fame for you and your friends. If you appear on a CSI episode, in the latest Star Wars, publish a best-selling novel or a critically-acclaimed thesis, or appear as a primary subject in a high school course on literature or science, you may very well be famous enough for inclusion in Wikiquote's articles. If you are wildly beloved by your entire high school and hometown, but are virtually unknown outside of it, you are certainly not famous enough. There are exceedingly few people who contribute to any wiki projects that are famous enough to merit their own articles. (Even the people who have founded various WikiMedia projects have had to face notability challenges from the communities they founded. These are very high standards.)

However, for the benefit of Wikiquote users, we follow Wikipedia's (and other WikiMedia projects') policy of allowing personal information on User pages, which are not treated as authoritative works, or even required to be the least bit factual. They are still subject to approval or deletion by community will, but this is rarely exercised in most wikis and (as far as I know) has never been an issue on Wikiquote. But Wikiquote is not a repository for personal information, a personal website, or a blog. There are many such services available, often for free, that provide these capabilities; Wikiquote is not one of them.

I hope that you will consider adding to the existing quotations by notable people, especially if you have been inspired or amused by people or works you've studied in your school courses, or even in books, movies, and TV shows you've enjoyed. But if you continue to attempt to post your own or your friends' quotes in the main articlespace without any evidence of notability, and against repeated admonitions to discontinue this practice, you will be blocked. I don't like being this blunt, but you seem to be more insistent than most in trying to get into the articlespace based on your own unsupported idea of "fame". Most of the people who have been this persistent have been obvious vandals, and we block them rigorously without debate. I'm hoping that, in your case, we simply have a misunderstanding of the purpose of Wikiquote, and that you can become a valuable participant in the community. Thank you for your attention. — Jeff Q (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Your account will be renamed[edit]

23:25, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed[edit]

05:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)