Wikiquote:Requests for adminship/GeorgeBarnick

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The result was: Application declined. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

GeorgeBarnick (talk · contributions)

Hello Wikiquote community members!

While I do feel a bit unsure of requesting adminship with my few edits here, I would like to say I feel that it would be beneficial to me to do so, and I will share my reasons for believing this in this request. I don't know how many people would be familiar with me here, but I'm a contributor here on occasion, as well as a very active Wikimedian and MediaWiki developer. To be honest, my main intention for requesting this is for the rollback permission. I know tools such as Twinkle, but I often prefer the traditional rollback feature instead of JavaScript gadgets. While my contributions here aren't much, I hope its enough to prove my trustworthiness. For assurance I'm not someone unfamiliar with rollback (or admin tools in general), I am an administrator at MediaWiki.org, and a rollback at the English Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia and Wikidata (verify at CentralAuth). Wikiquote is a project I'm interested in regularly contributing to, but I do feel like I would be able to more-effectively perform countervandalism tasks (something I do most at all projects) with the ability to use rollback.

If this request is premature and you'd rather me wait more time to familiarise myself more with the community, I understand. However, I have familiarised myself with the English Wikiquote's policies, so I know what would be expected of me as an active contributor as well as an administrator here. Plus, as Wikiquote:Administrators says, "Most users seem to agree that the more administrators there are the better." :-)

If you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer them. I also appreciate any feedback or suggestions you have for me. --GeorgeBarnick (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Vote ends: 10 May 2014

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• Support · I have never believed admins should be a very small or exceptional portion of any wiki community — despite the efforts of some who have attained such privileges to make it so or keep it so. Such a state of affairs often gives the opinions of a few a far more exceptional respect than their views and arguments actually merit. Though I have only done a cursory review of this person's status at Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia wiks, this person seems to be worthy to trusted as a much needed vandal fighter here. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 12:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC) + tweaks

• Support, per "no big deal". Of course this could set a dangerous precedent, if users in good standing on other wikis too feel entitled to become Wikiquote administrators after just a few edits. (And it would not be the first time that this community was fooled.) My thoughts on this candidate in particular: running for adminship after just 29 edits reveals either great enthusiasm, or extremely poor judgment. As a point of comparison, on Portuguese Wikipedia a user must have (at least) 2000 mainspace edits just to be an eligible candidate for adminship. George says he is interested in gaining the rollback tool, but for this he could simply file a request for global rollback permissions at Meta, where these rights (rollback and others) are given away quite liberally. So far, his reverts here have been fine, with one exception – I feel I shouldn't have to explain to an admin why his reversion here was problematic. In any case, I am supporting this request, because I don't think there is a risk of him blocking the wrong users, or deleting the wrong pages, and he does have potential, and will no doubt prove a valuable Wikiquote contributor if given the chance. ~ DanielTom (talk) 17:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment; In response to your mentioning of global rollback, I unfortunately don't qualify for it yet. Usually a global rollbacker needs to have vandalism reverts on approximately 100 projects, and I'm only about 40% there. It has been something I've been working towards for a while, but to me, I prefer to only hold rights on wikis I'd be able to contribute to (e.g. projects in languages I understand). Thanks for your comments though. --GeorgeBarnick (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose, due the lack of experience on this site. I have no reason to believe that this user would not be a good admin (and I like the enthusiasm), but I just feel that a prospective admin should have more experience in the workings here (which are often much different than at some of our sister sites). I do agree with Kalki that we do need more admins here and would welcome other requests for adminship - but again from users with a bit more experience. I would encourage GeorgeBarnick to try again once he has built up more edits. ~ UDScott (talk) 00:01, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose. Agree with UDScott. Candidate appears to have grand total of less than seventy (70) total edits to this website. -- Cirt (talk) 00:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support. Why not? More Administrator who can whack a vandal and have a good intention is fine, and I personally trust George he will do a fine job.--Aldnonymous (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
• Regretful Oppose - I am sorry, but you are new here, only under 70 edits. Personally, I would like you to edit here more often, get used to the community, and read the policies. Thanks. --~ Golden_burg111 20:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment I've read all the policies I've seen actually. One thing I've been wanting to ask— I see a lot of redlinks on policy pages for nonexistent pages in the Wikiquote namespace. Is it okay if I were to make some of those, even though I'm not an admin? --GeorgeBarnick (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Myself, yes. But you have to talk to most of the admins here, a good user too ask is User:UDScott, cheers! --~ Golden_burg111 20:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Absolutely - have at it. There are many pages that still need work and any contributions you make are appreciated. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:05, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Participating in discussion and formulation of policies and guidelines is a great way to become familiar with the community and its ways. A lot of the local customs and practices are undocumented, and there is much that could be done to make things clearer, especially for newcomers. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, but feel free to re-apply after gaining more experience at Wikiquote. The interest in countervandalism work is very welcome, but I think it takes several hundred or a thousand edits over a period of months, both building article content and participating in community affairs, to become familiar with the written and unwritten rules and practices of the local community. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:52, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
• Comment; This needs to be archived as unsuccessful now. --GeorgeBarnick (talk) 02:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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