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Jeremy Clarkson

I was baffled to see that you have deleted this article as "not sufficiently notable". Mr Clarkson is one of Britain's best-known television personalities and motoring journalists. I see from the logs that he has had articles deleted before from lack of sources, but notability should not be an issue. Would you support me if I created a new article, every quote being sourced from the website of the BBC or a major newspaper?--Ole.Holm 17:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct - I accidentally selected the wrong reason. But the deletion was made because the only content on the page was "Geez, why can't I access history of deleted page? That's so lame." Feel free to recreate the page, provided (as you said) the quotes are properly sourced. ~ UDScott 19:10, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Hiromu Arakawa

Its time to close the VFD for the page because everyone picked delete.(StarWarsFanBoy 19:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC))

My great UDScott Show Pity upon my merciless sole?

Hello, great UDScott! I'm new here and before I just "jump into things" I wanted to ask a few questions. I'm asking you because I was told you are a great leader here at Wikiquote. Here's the Q's dog:
1.) Are there any special rules or traditions I should know of?
2.) Is there a type of hierarchy here I should know of?
3.) Any ideas of where I should start?
4.) Anyone I should stay away from or be aware of? (Trouble makers, notorious vandals etc.?)
Thanks for your help,
ISHOOTHORSES 20:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


See the welcome message I left on your talk page on where to begin. ~ UDScott 21:08, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you but that does not answer a few of my questions (#'s 1,2, and 4). If you you answer these PROMPTLY it would be much appericated. Have a great afternoon lad! ISHOOTHORSES 21:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

UDScott can you show me the light?

HI UDScott, I am in the process of transcibing the audio from The 99p Challenge ( gameshow, I saw that you had put the stub label on it & thought best to contact you as a WikiQuote Guru. Have you ever heard the show or have any experience with quoting Gameshows. I need some guidance on how best to approach this. Looking at the page now each episode is a section & a whoever entered that stuff has put a page break for each 'round' and selected 1 or more quotes.

Just wondered if you or anyone you know, would be able to advise me on the most appropriate way to proceed. Thanks, Darkroomwithaview 23:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest that you continue with the episode approach - but you should base the number of quotes on the limits set at WQ:LOQ - which would translate to 2 quotes per episode for a half-hour show and 5 per episode for an hour show. So that would mean that the first episode needs to be trimmed already. Hope that helps. ~ UDScott 01:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


How would I go about adding sources for a quote I recently added to the Call of Duty Page? Thank you for your anticipated response. ISHOOTHORSES 20:44, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

In this case, I don't think you need to do any more. ~ UDScott 20:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you UDScott, but "some" films of I created, doesn't have film templates as, example Alice in Wonderland (1976) and The Opening of Misty Beethoven (1976), because these are porn movies. But, The Opening of Misty Beethoven has a IMDB quotes page. --Danilo Andres Ramirez Nuvola Chilian flag.svg Problems? 20:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem - thanks for adding it where it fits. I was also thinking of other additions you've made (e.g. Airport '77). ~ UDScott 20:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Other thing

Wait that my English you understand it, sometimes isnt' easy for me, I speak in Spanish language, but you dont' speak Spanish, is hard for you. Well, but that isn't important. Greetings! :) --Danilo Andres Ramirez Nuvola Chilian flag.svg Problems? 20:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC) P.D: If you see in my user page in Babel, I can to contribute in en-1 and native language is Spanish.

Gordon Wu

I'm contesting the Prod. He's a knight and an honorary citizen of New Orleans. He was declared International CEO of the Year by George Washington University in 1996. How much more notable must a businessman be before he can have a page? Maybe not a brilliant quote, but that's a different issue.--Ole.Holm 20:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem - I didn't get any sense of notability from the intro that was there - and at that time I didn't have a chance to look into it. That's what is nice about the prod - it gives some time to correct or research a page before it is subject to deletion. I have no problem with you removing the tag. ~ UDScott 21:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 TV series)

Just to let you know I can't trim the page because if I remove the memorable quotes by mistake the page might be nominated on a VFD or it might contain a prod that has the reason called unmomorable quotes. I rather let you trim the articles because you're the admin around here and you and your fellow Admins are the ones that know which quote is unmemorable and memorable.(StarWarsFanBoy 05:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC))

Look, all I am saying is not to dump a bunch of quotes that are not properly formatted and forcing me or others to do the work for you. If you are unwilling to do that, then your additions will simply be reverted. ~ UDScott 18:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thats why we discuss on the talkpage of the Article you just reverted and on that talkpage I made a list of quotes to see if you can tell which quotes are very notable from that quote list I add to the talkpage. IF you see those two memorable quotes from that list someone might as well add those two notable quotes to the article.(StarWarsFanBoy 21:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC))

Why don't you just pick two of them, properly format them, and add them to the page. The point is not that admins are the only ones who can choose quotes. It's just that every couple of weeks, you've been dumping a bunch of unformatted quotes on the page, expecting someone to fix them for you. Why don't you give it a try instead? ~ UDScott 00:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

If I add the quotes then I might add the unmemorable materials by mistake and the page might get deleted. Once again I can't tell which quote is notable or memorable.(StarWarsFanBoy 00:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC))

You are a wikinazi

You seem to fit the classic profile of a wikinazi. How do you figure that Joe Stack's manifesto is not "notable"? Are you ignorant of current affairs or just so convinced of your infallibility that you ignore reality? - —This unsigned comment is by (talkcontribs) .

While the story is certainly in the news, Joe Stack himself is not someone who is notable enough to have a page here. And even if the community decides that he is, the entire "manifesto" should not be reproduced here. The incident itself is noteworthy, but the man really isn't. ~ UDScott 14:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: W. C. Allee

13:50, 26 January 2010 UDScott (Talk | contribs) deleted "W. C. Allee" ‎ (Proposed deletion: Unsourced)

Hello. I just noticed that W. C. Allee was deleted. I would like a copy so I can restore it with sources. Could you restore it for me on my talk page or in my user space? Thanks. Viriditas 13:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Per your request, here is the content on a subpage to your user page - just delete this subpage once you've made the new Allee page. For future reference, you can still access the history of a deleted page, just need to click on the link and then click on the link at the top of the page that shows the prior deleted pages. ~ UDScott 16:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, but I can't access the history. All I can see is the deletion log.[1] Viriditas 02:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually, you're nearly there - from that page, all you have to do is click on the links on the left (with time and date stamps). Each of these corresponds to a version of the page from that specific date and time. ~ UDScott 12:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I restored it. Viriditas 02:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Andreu Buenafuente

You want to erase the message of this page, that I have put references... please

Having a list of references (in Spanish no less) does not provide sources for the quotes - specific citations are need so that people can verify the accuracy of the provided quotes - this is especially true for a living person. I don't see anything in your additions that would cause me or others to remove the proposed deletion tag. ~ UDScott 21:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Joe Strummer

I was about to start a Strummer page, but hesitated because you deleted it twice.

I recently saw the Strummer biographical documentary The Future is Unwritten, and heard him say "it only makes sense in the moment." While I have never been a Clash or Strummer fan, I perceived his organizational abilities to be phenomenal, and this insight by him resonated with my attempts to organize information, particularly my Spiritual Darwinism.

I also heard a telling yet less admirable quote by him that went something like "I would never steal a friend's money, but I would steal his girl."

What is your reaction to this?--John Bessa 15:13, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

IP block

Did you mean to use an infinite block on IP ~ Ningauble 13:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I did intentionally make that block - this was during the nearly constant reappearances of the same user or users and I had been performing such a block on each. If you disagree, I am fine with it - I didn't even think about it being an IP address rather than a user name, but I assumed it was the same individual based on the content added. ~ UDScott 15:24, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
It probably doesn't matter either way. Our project is so small that the odds of someone else using this particular address here in the future are slim, and the total number of infinitely blocked IPs here is rather small.[2] On the other hand, any block is only a temporary expedient with vandals who move around constantly... ~ Ningauble 16:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

User Talk: Qyesq


Dr. Heathen Scum

I removed your prod template from Dr. Heathen Scum article because article IS properly sourced. In fact ALL the quotes were properly sourced. Source is El Duce, The Man, The Myth, The Video (1993) by Reverend Cuntbag . Do not add prod templates in sourced articles. Thank you. Klassikkomies 10:28, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


Is it possible for a former vandal to refrom and bea quality member of the community? Because that is wwhat I'm trying to do. I just wanted to let you know that! I love me! 13:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


You still have the wrong formatting for Jeopardy!. 17:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. 14:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

We need your help!

Lately, we've had a case of vandals in Wikiquote pages involving Disney films, and those vandals (or maybe they're all the same vandal) never seem to stop! Can you help us by fully-protecting those pages? WikiLubber 17:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry?

I got that quote off another website, and found it most humerus, I then tried to find more quotes by General George Custer, but couldn't find any, so I created the page.--ILoveSky 03:20, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Kemp

I'm new to Wikiquote. I'm not sure exactly how the policies and guidelines differ from Wikipedia, but I thought I'd include a page about this controversial figure given his unorthodox views on race. A couple of questions - are there any guidelines on which quotes should be included? Does Wikiquote have a similar concept to notability with Wikipedia? Do quotes have to be listed in order that the person said them in? Thanks... -Lightsin 02:29, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

In answer to your questions: yes, there is a notability concept at Wikiquote (I believe this person meets the threshold) and yes the quotes should be listed in chronological order. As for what quotes to include, it's a bit subjective, but the quotes should be of a nature that they stand on their own as something memorable and are not just used to fill a page. For example, even if the person is undoubtedly notable, everything they say is not necessarily worthy of inclusion - as an example, it would be pretty pointless to quote Abraham Lincoln were he to describe his favorite recipe. Thanks for the contribution, and enjoy the site. ~ UDScott 13:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

My contributions and quotes

anywhere i could find souced quotes? --Sorrow6451 01:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


Sorry for my mistakes. I feel as confused as when I first started on Wikipedia in 2006. Joe Chill 01:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

No worries - I wouldn't say they are mistakes so much as a learning curve. It wasn't a bad start, just needed a little refining. Take a look at the templates for the different types of pages and look at other pages to get the lay of the land. And feel free to ask questions whenever you need help. ~ UDScott 01:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
One Bride of Chucky I added a dialogue section that includes "Hey, Raggedy Ann, you looked in the mirror lately? Now's not the time to get picky." The same quote is under Chucky. Am I supposed to remove it from Chucky? Joe Chill 02:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it should be removed from the Chucky section - and by the way, it's usually better to have the quotes in the dialogue section if that's possible (and the dialogue is memorable enough). ~ UDScott 02:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


Could you please explain at Talk:David Miscavige, what you would like to see done in order to improve the lede/intro? I would love to work to address your complaints. :) Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 00:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

See my response there. ~ UDScott 00:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thank you! :) -- (will reply there) -- Cirt (talk) 00:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello, User:UDScott, Thank You for fixing "The Money Pit" By Adding A Sub warning. --S1312 20:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


Hi UDScott:

Congratulations on becoming a Wikiquote sysop and bureaucrat. I noticed you deleted my page:

I am new to posting on Wiki sites and am trying to learn the protocol. I notice the reason given was:

Speedy deletion: Housekeeping as described here:

From reading that page I see that "Housekeeping" includes: "Non-controversial maintenance tasks such as temporarily deleting a page in order to merge page histories, performing a non-controversial page move like reversing a redirect, or removing a disambiguation page that only points to a single article."

Can you please explain in more details the reason for this deletion? This seems an important quote I have heard from several sources and I am trying to track down the source. I heard it was Thomas Edison though I could not find it on that page: so therefore I created this article to track it down, until the actual author is found, at which time it would move to that page. I also posted this as a discussion here:

Is that the proper place for this rather than creating a separate article? (Hopefully you won't delete it over there too! :^) Can you please explain? Again I am simply trying to learn the protocols.

Thank you very much and best regards, 21:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC) Andy 16/jul/10

Perhaps using the 'Housekeeping' reason was not entirely correct, but in the end, having a page for a single quote for which no source or even author is entirely known is not the right way to go. Instead, it would be good to post something on a place like the Village Pump or even the Reference desk. Also your posting on the Thomas Edison talk page was a good move as well, and perhaps someone will find a source. Hopefully, this answers your questions - feel free to ask more if it does not. ~ UDScott 22:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello, User:UDScott, Thank You for Editing It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World By Adding a stub tag & More Info --S1312 14:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I Fixed Buddy Rich

I Have Fixed The Page Buddy Rich By Putting The Source Of The Quotes By Singing His Name On The Quotes. Keep In Mind, These Were Quotes That Were Sayed, In Person, By Buddy Rich. Also It's a stub page, so you may help by editing it if you want. --S1312 19:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

No, actually this does nothing to fix the problem. What is needed is to find an outside source for the quotes - see Wikiquote:Sourcing for more information. ~ UDScott 19:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


Please, DO NOT Delete The Page Buddy Rich Because The Quotes Were Sayed By Buddy Rich, THEY WERE NOT FROM A WRITEN SOURSE, THE SOURCE WAS FROM BUDDY RICH HIMSELF. --S1312 19:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, but without those words being sourced somewhere (for example cited in a newspaper or magazine article), there is no way to prove that he actually said them. This is what is needed - a way to verify the accuracy of the quotes. Please feel free to enter the discussion at the vfd page. Thanks. ~ UDScott 20:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Changing username/Usurpation

Hi. I've entered a request at Changing username/Usurpation. It seems that Aphaia, who was active maintaining the page, is on a break and has not edited since 8 June 2010. I asked to usurp my old account on 6 July 2010. Thanks for your attention.Droll2 01:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

How to enter the person description when there's also a page on Wikipedia?

Hi Scott! I noticed you have helped redirect the two pages I created (Chris Anderson and John Kotter). Thanks! I keep doing this wrong :-( When I create a new page that is also on Wikipedia, how do I write that first bit where you describe the person and "redirect" it? I went into the editing window of the page itself but for that first bit I can't see the text...Thanks! KS 05:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure I completely get your question, but to redirect a page, you just need to use the following: #REDIRECT[[xxxx]], where you fill in the xxxx with the target page. As for the introduction where the person is described, that is usually taken from the wikipedia page (usually a shortened version of the WP intro - no more than a sentence or two, since if someone wants to know more, they can simply go to the WP page, which is linked. Hope this helps! ~ UDScott 00:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for doing the updates to the QOTD, but just as I was about to leave for at least a short while, i noticed the page you created for Quote of the day/August 22, 2010 will need to be moved or copied into Wikiquote:Quote of the day/August 22, 2010. Thanks again for the help. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 00:40, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. And whoops - going too fast and left off the Wikiquote part. Thanks. ~ UDScott 00:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Unblock/unlock request

I am copying all five (5) Wikiquote bureaucrats, to see if some attention might be drawn to this request for an unblock (and un"lock", via renaming the account, then naming it back). Jimmy Wales, in the opinion of many, acted out of concert with community consensus and practice when he issued a "global ban" on User:Thekohser. Would you or another bureaucrat be kind enough to assist? -- Thekohser (using 17:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC))

Emil Zátopek

Can you please undelete this article, some of the quotes were sourced. -- 18:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

If you have legitimately sourced quotes, feel free to create the page again - but without this, it should not be recreated once deleted. ~ UDScott 18:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I did have legitimately sourced on the article that you deleted. -- 21:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Robert South

Hi, I've restored Robert South, which you had initially created, and latter prodded. I have supplied sourced quotes, and sourced a few of the original quotes that you had provided. I also restored the unsourced quotes for possible sourcing, and was thinking you might want to take a shot at sourcing these, since you had initially put them there. Cheers! BD2412 T 17:06, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't even remember creating this - this was about 5 years ago, when I was first starting out (and before I learned the evils of having unsourced quotes). :-) I'll see if I can dig anything out, but I suspect that I won't have a ton of success. ~ UDScott 17:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I need your help.

There seems to be an edit war going on in Thomas and Friends and Shining Time Station. In the former, the user continues to add the wrong lines, and in latter, the same user removes an episode even though there is no limit to how many episodes per Wikiquote article. It's quotes that matter. Could you protect both pages, please? WikiLubber 10:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Plus, there's a bit of an edit war in The Little Mermaid. The user adds the wrong punctuation without reason. WikiLubber 10:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Up in the Air (film)

UDScott, great work on the Wikiquote for Special:Search/Up_in_the_Air_(film). --Dan Dassow (talk) 04:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


Hi. Why did you kept this edit by Local hero?? He just deleted academic quotes favoring his POV! - —This unsigned comment is by (talkcontribs) .

I happen to agree with the cuts Local hero made - and further I believe that there should be even more cuts made to this page. There are just way too many quotes (see the Talk Page, where I also stated this). ~ UDScott 00:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

WikiLinking is not absolutely necessary. Wikipedia, maybe, but not here. WikiLubber 21:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

No it is not "absolutely necessary," but where is the harm in adding some links that some users might like to take advantage of? I don't understand why you feel the need to keep reverting my addition of a couple of links to people included in quotes. ~ UDScott 12:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

12 days and my rename request is not fulfilled yet.

See Wikiquote:Changing username -- my request has not been fulfilled yet. Frozen Wind 18:29, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

David Levy

I was recently working on his page and noticed that you deleted it. Can you explain the reason why you did so? Electrix 08:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The reason for the deletion was as I wrote when I did it: there were no quotes on the page, just an intro for the person. Feel free to recreate the page if you now have sourced quotes to add. ~ UDScott 14:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Michael Laitman

Hi! What's finnaly happening with Michael Laitman's page? Looks like we have a tie vote... WikiMart 22:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually the page was already speedily deleted because it was a page that had previously been deleted (after discussion). See Wikiquote:Votes_for_deletion#Michael_Laitman where there is also a link to the prior discussion. ~ UDScott 16:15, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Barry Schwartz

Thanks for cleaning up my I was hoping someone with better wiki skills would do so. You were quick. ~ —This unsigned comment is by RichAlger (talkcontribs) .

Jonathan Stroud

Thanks for the help. The page looks much better now. I've also learned a lot of how to make pages from your edits. Thanks! (Random_Brethren 17:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC))

No problem. Thanks for your additions. ~ UDScott 01:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


The vandal currently using the IP is back, and is once again targeting The Critic. Please look into it accordingly.

Here are the records to this IP: (talkcontribspage movesblock userblock log)

Thank you in advance and I look forward to your reply. -- 02:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote interlanguage communication

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I hope that this message has been useful for you. Cheers, Nemo (write me) 10:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Uri Meiselman

Hey Scott, Not sure what else do I need to do in order to keep the new entry I have made on Uri Meiselman. He's not the biggest star in Israel, but he does appear in Hebrew Wikipedia under his Album entry.

My PROD tagging was based on my inability to verify the quote or the notability of this person. That's not to say that I am not wrong on this (which is why I used PROD instead of outright deletion). What is needed is a better source - a link to a site in English would be ideal. See if you can find something like this and then the tag can be removed. Thanks. ~ UDScott 01:45, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Joe Strummer

Hi Scott,
I just want to thank you for your excellent work on Joe's page. That page was deleted months ago, so I decided to collect some of his quotes on my page and then I recreated the page today, which is the eighth anniversary of his death :'('''''' (R.I.P. Joe). I hope it is now "eligible" to "stay" on Wikiquote because Joe really deserves a page here. I'm sorry if I made you work hard, but I'm new to Wikiquote style and formatting. From now on I will follow the formatting style and layout of Joe's article.
Once again, thank you so very much!!! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 17:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem - it was actually a well thought out page and will surely stay now. I just tried to clean up a little bit of the redundancy in the sourcing notes and make it a bit more visually appealing. I also removed the bibliography section (not that what was cited is not good, but rather that it is better placed on his wikipedia page than here). Thanks for your work in resurrecting the page! ~ UDScott 19:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)